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1990 Alfa Romeo Spider Veloce Automatic
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This is rare car even in North America, I've seen it only once since I came to Canada in 2013
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We can see a 75 at the back of the first picture, with a side strip at the bottom of the body. I just can guess but it was probably in 1982-1983. Again I'm guessing but in that period they could only adopt the design of 156 to the new T4 platform. I think the proposal from Pininfarina was not ready yet.
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His source is Alfabb, where Paolo posted pictures and the info about the car. https://www.alfabb.com/threads/alfa-164-the-genesis.204144/
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Paolo, the first 3 photos show the static car in the same position, look at he angle of the front wheels, it's the same. At the last two photos the front wheels were straight, but the position of the car on the road looks the same as the previous pictures. To me the car looks static
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I think it is 154, the front overhang is obviously from the front wheel drive car. And the engine line is very low, following the low height of boxer architecture and sub-horizontal placement of L4. Thank you Paolo!
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The text below the photo: The moment of work in the ItalDesign studio, April 1990. The lead body designer - Chieso (i might be wrong with the translation of the last name), Margarita (Giugiaro's executive assistant), Project manager - Antonello, M. Demidovcev, S. Sinelnikov, G, Grabor From page 68 From page 65: The story of A-93 starts here and finishes at the page 70 https://www.rulit.me/books/vysokoj-mysli-plamen-chast-tretya-read-251440-64.html
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Paolo, just my 2 cents... My thoughts How could IDeA present the complete design (1:1 model) of 155 in a such short period of time (February-March 1987)? I think the design of 155 was almost the same as 434 by IDeA. The wheel base of 434 was 2600mm (Tipo 3 - 2540), the front overhang 900 (Tipo 3 - 960), the rear overhang 850mm (Tipo 3 - 943). Probably the task of De Silva was to work with FIAT/IDeA and Alfa and adopt the 434 design to Tipo 3 platform? And even in the Chirico book the shape of the 433-434 at the drawings is very similar to 155 and to the photos posted above P.S. Finmeccanica announced that FIAT won over Ford on November 6, 1986 De Silva had the interview with Eugenio Alzati (CEO of Alfa Romeo) in the Autumn of 1986 (probably late October?) De Silva officially became the Manager of Centro Stile on December 1, 1986 FIAT "bought" Alfa Romeo on December 31, 1986
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Paolo, we know that Busso dreamed about FWD, the 152, which eventually became 433/434. The AR management obviously wanted Tipo 2/3! This is the strategic plan from 1980 that was accepted by IRI. Starting from 1983 all Alfa Nord models (except Alfa 6) supposed to have the 152 Front Wheel Drive platform, which later became the 433/434 - single platform for the Nord and Sud models.
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Paolo, I think they had 2 different types of V8 mules. The first one was SW type and the second was a Coupe type
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To be honest I think during the backstage they had divide cars by the projects to avoid any confusion, or provide project codes in the slides. It is 105.68 by Centro Stile. Also at the backstage the Nuova SS project (105.55) was mentioned as well. Bertone proposed 2 variants of the design 1. Future Montreal 2. SS Testudo
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This is the car from the Lopresto collection, 105.68 by Giugiaro One of the 105.64 with 4 cyl engine is still alive
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Regarding Alfetta 2 porte This model appeared in production plans in December of 1971. The internal codings of Berlina 2000 (2 porte) Sport were 116.16 (LHD) and 116.17 (RHD) Weight - 1050 kg, And just for fun, the planned model line for 1972-1975
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