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Il 2.0 Turbo a 4 cilindri viene portato a 320 cv, il cambio è il DSG a 7 rapporti, mentre la trazione è la 4Motion con il Torque Vectoring.

Tra le modalità di guida troviamo Special, settato e adatto al ‘Ring e Drift, che per l’appunto permette di driftare cambiando i parametri del controllo di stabilità ed ottimizzando la potenza distribuita alla trazione. 

 

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The new Golf R gets off to a fly­ing start: world pre­miere of the most pow­er­ful se­ries-pro­duc­tion Golf of all times

  • TSI engine generating 235 kW (320 PS): Golf R01 accelerates to 100 km/h in a mere 4.7 seconds
  • R-Performance Torque Vectoring: Golf R with new all-wheel drive system as standard
  • New status quo in terms of driving dynamics: all-wheel drive and running gear closely integrated for the first time

Volkswagen is celebrating the world premiere of the new Golf R today. In Europe, pre-sales of the Golf flagship generating 235 kW (320 PS)01 already start tomorrow, Thursday, 5 November. The Golf R is traditionally the most powerful model of Volkswagen’s most successful product line of all times. Always with all-wheel drive, always highly dynamic, always with particularly exclusive design and equipment, always a technological benchmark of its class – the Golf class. And it’s no different this time round: the Golf R will be the first Volkswagen to launch with a new all-wheel drive system before the end of this year: 4MOTION with R-Performance Torque Vectoring. This intelligently networked system enables a new dimension of driving dynamics.

 

With the new sports car, Volkswagen is highlighting the great potential of the Golf, now already in its eighth generation. In future, this icon of the compact class, produced significantly more than 35 million times, will cover an output range of between 66 kW (90 PS)02 and the 320 PS generated by the new Golf R. The Golf is available with a petrol engine (TSI), diesel engine (TDI) featuring cutting-edge twin dosing, natural gas engine (TGI)03, as a 48V mild hybrid (eTSI) and with plug-in hybrid drive. This wide range of variations and its both clear-cut as well as contemporary design make the Golf one of the world’s very few high-production-volume models to stand apart from normal vehicle categories.

The new Golf R now reigns supreme as the product line’s most powerful model to date. With its drive technology, it tops everything that has been launched with the Golf label up to now. The fifth edition of the sports car accelerates to 100 km/h in just 4.7 seconds. The top speed is electronically limited to 250 km/h. However, the Golf R can also be ordered with an optional R-Performance package, which enables the top speed to be increased to 270 km/h. However, it’s less the individual driving performance that shapes the character of the new Golf R, but rather the combination of a powerful 420 newton metres of torque, cutting-edge running gear and the most progressive all-wheel drive in this category that define a new status quo in terms of dynamics.

The new all-wheel drive system and high-tech running gear merge to create a host of innovations, offering maximum agility and driving pleasure. The 4MOTION system with R-Performance Torque Vectoring is the new control centre that distributes the engine’s output to the four driven wheels. A new rear final drive distributes the drive power of the turbocharged petrol engine in the Golf R not just between the front and rear axles, but also variably between the two rear wheels. This makes it possible to significantly increase the agility particularly when cornering. As a world first, the all-wheel drive is also networked via a Vehicle Dynamics Manager (VDM) with other running gear systems such the electronic differential locks (XDS) and adaptive chassis control DCC. Thanks to this close integration of the different systems, the new Golf R offers optimum traction characteristics and neutral handling with the utmost level of precision.

By the way, the new Golf R’s setup was fine-tuned on the Nürburgring Nordschleife. When combined with the R-Performance package, the Golf R even comes with a dedicated Nürburgring driving profile, known as “Special”. As part of this driving profile, all key drive parameters are geared towards the legendary race track – including the new all-wheel drive. And the results are measurable: as shown during in-house test drives, the Golf R – which is equipped with a 7-speed dual-clutch gearbox (DSG) as standard – is up to 19 seconds quicker per lap around Nürburgring Nordschleife than its predecessor (07:51 minutes).

Flashback: it was an automotive sensation – the first Golf R32, introduced in 2002. With its 3.2-litre six-cylinder engine generating 177 kW (241 PS)04 it was the most powerful Golf that Volkswagen had built up to that point. It was also equipped with all-wheel drive and raced to 100 km/h in only 6.6 seconds. It sold three times as well as had been anticipated. From mid-2003, it was the world’s first Volkswagen available with a dual clutch gearbox (DSG). In 2005, the second Golf R32 made its debut, and with 184 kW (250 PS)04 it was even more powerful and superior. Four years went by until the 2009 International Motor Show in Frankfurt: at this event, Volkswagen celebrated the world premiere of the successor on the basis of the sixth Golf generation, changing from a V6 naturally-aspirated engine to a 2.0-litre four-cylinder turbocharged engine (TSI) that was 21 percent more efficient. The R32 became the R and with it, the output of the third generation increased to 199 kW (270 PS)04. In September 2013, the fourth Golf R generation followed on the basis of the Golf 7, once again making its debut at the International Motor Show. With now 221 kW04, it broke through the magic 300 PS threshold.

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Golf R 20 Years Edition

 

Golf R 20 Years Edition festeggia i 20 anni dalla bella R32, diventando la Golf più potente di sempre grazie ai 333 cv estratti dal 2.0 EA888.
Tra le altre peculiarità dell’edizione limitata troviamo Scarichi Akrapovic, Emotional Start che revva il motore sino a 2500 rpm prima della partenza, DSG e Turbo rivisitati, colore Lapiz Blue  con cerchi neri o Bianco con cerchioni blu, pneumatici Michelin Sport Cup 2, loghi “20” su montanti e sulle “luci pozzanghera”.

 

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Press Release R 20 Years:

 

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  • Thanks to the standard Performance package and 10 kW more, the Golf R “20 Years”01 has improved the lap time on the legendary Nürburgring-Nordschleife by a good 4 seconds compared with the current Golf R02
  • The evolutionary enhancement of the engine and gearbox makes it possible to experience performance in everyday use and on the race track
  • The intelligent combination of “R-Performance package”, Vehicle Dynamics Manager and “R-Performance Torque Vectoring” increases the driving dynamics and enhances the driving experience
  • The anniversary vehicle with all-wheel drive underlines the continuity and evolution of the most powerful Golf versions over a period of 20 years
 

The stopwatch says it all: the new Golf R “20 Years”01 is the fastest R model of all time on the German racetrack Nürburgring-Nordschleife. The anniversary vehicle with its increased power has bettered the previous lap record of a Golf R02 on the 20,832 km long racetrack once more by four seconds. The Golf R “20 Years” clocked an official lap time of 7:47.31 minutes. Thanks to its exclusive standard equipment, optimised driving dynamics and a standard output of 245 kW (333 PS), the Golf R “20 Years” offers significantly improved performance and guarantees an emotionally charged motorsport experience between the “Schwedenkreuz” and “Döttinger Höhe” track sections.

 

The sporty edition to celebrate the 20th anniversary delivers 10 kW more than the current Golf R production model. Equipped with this engine power, the Golf “20 Years” accelerates from 0 to 100 km/h in 4.6 seconds; its electronically limited top speed is 270 km/h. Thanks to the significantly improved engine response, the increased power also makes itself noticeable in everyday situations such as overtaking manoeuvres. But it is not just the power of the 2.0-litre four-cylinder turbocharged engine that makes the special-edition model the most dynamic Volkswagen R of all time on the Nordschleife. The clear increase in performance is also the result of the extensive standard equipment with technical highlights such as the R-Performance package, Driving Dynamics Manager and R-Performance Torque Vectoring. What could be a better place to test this combination than the Nürburgring- Nordschleife? The evolution of the powerful all-wheel-drive Golf R models can be impressively followed here over the last 20 years.

Touring car race driver and Volkswagen R development driver Benjamin Leuchter took on this task and tested the special-edition model on the legendary race track. He was also actively involved in the realisation of the R-Performance package for the Golf R “20 Years”. Alongside the regular “Comfort”, “Sport” and “Race” driving profiles, the special-edition model also comes as standard with the additional “Special” and “Drift” profiles. For driving on the Nordschleife, the race driver chose the “Special” driving profile, which was developed for this track. This profile gives the vehicle a set-up that meets the unique requirements of what is probably the most demanding race track in the world. This includes adjusting the shock absorbers to a more soft and comfortable setting due to the enormous loads at the maximum performance level when driving on such tracks.

As one of the 15 possible settings of the controlled shock absorbers, this guarantees optimum road contact on tracks with a large number of bumps, just like the Nürburgring. Together with the adapted steering wheel and drive settings, this makes it possible to take the large number of fast and medium-fast bends on the Nordschleife in an ideal way. In “Individual” mode of the Driving Dynamics Manager, it is also possible to manually adjust all parameters, such as R-Performance Torque Vectoring or the engine sound, and adapt them in line with personal preferences.

 

The timed lap of the Nürburgring-Nordschleife took place with a flying start in front of grandstand T13. The start and finish for the measurement are at the start and end of the grandstand – the 200 metres in between are not counted. Trust in the vehicle is not just the key to lap records, but also to safe driving pleasure. Staying on line at all times, the Golf R “20 Years” effortlessly mastered the fast changes between kerbs and the following bends such as “Hatzenbach”.

The modified shift characteristics of the 7-speed gearbox allow gear changes with more intensive feedback and make the powerful driving experience in the Golf R “20 Years” even more emotive. The optimised exhaust system sound in the low engine speed range and the rougher engine sound in the vehicle interior underline the vehicle’s increased dynamic performance.

The step forward in development compared with the predecessor model is also shown by the enhanced engine tuning of the Volkswagen R anniversary vehicle. The preloaded turbocharger is also kept at a constant speed in overrun mode so that the engine can develop its power more quickly in subsequent acceleration. This process is supported by the continuously open throttle valve. When the driver takes their foot off the accelerator and then accelerates again, this allows faster build-up of the torque and noticeably improves the engine’s responsiveness.

The Golf R “20 Years” with its performance-oriented drive technology achieved a speed of almost 240 km/h at the “Schwedenkreuz” crest, while 265 km/h was measured at the “Döttinger Höhe” on the Nürburgring. The new record time of 7:47.31 minutes means an improvement of four seconds compared to the predecessor model and a special gift for Volkswagen R to mark the 20th model anniversary.

 
 

Blurring the lines between production and race cars. The Golf R “20 Years” effortlessly bridges the gap between everyday companion and thoroughbred athlete.

“With this car, I can drive here on the Nürburgring and the next stop is then the baker’s or the DIY store. The vehicle is really an all-rounder that can do everything,” says a visibly impressed Benjamin Leuchter. And that is exactly the concept pursued by Volkswagen R: Volkswagen’s premium performance brand has already been offering special models since 2002. With their enhanced performance and expressive design, they generate enthusiasm all over the world in the Volkswagen fan communities.

The continuous and rapid development towards even greater performance can be easily seen by taking a look at some of the vehicle data of the models from past years. Starting with the Golf R3203 with 177 kW (241 PS) and a 3.2-litre six-cylinder engine as the drive unit, through the Golf 6 R03 with 199 kW (270 PS) and a 2.0-litre four-cylinder turbocharged engine, the performance-oriented Golf models up to the Golf R “20 Years” with 245 kW (333 PS) have not just become more powerful, but also faster. Volkswagen R is celebrating this successful model development with the Golf R “20 Years”. The production period limited to approximately one year makes the special-edition model a collector’s item as soon as it rolls off the production line.

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VOLKSWAGEN GOLF 8 R: IL MOTORE

Non si può che partire da qui. Golf 8 R è dunque mossa dal più potente turbo benzina da 2 litri a quattro cilindri della serie EA888 tra quelli disponibili su nuova Golf. La scheda tecnica parla di di 320 CV di potenza (cioè 20 CV in più di Golf 7 R) e 420 Nm di coppia (idem: +20 Nm), disponibili tra i 2.100 e i 5.350 giri/min. e scaricati a terra su tutte e quattro le ruote (la trazione integrale intelligente è di serie) dal cambio automatico DSG a 7 rapporti. L’evoluto motore a iniezione diretta di Golf R è caratterizzato da soluzioni innovative e dettagli specifici: l’integrazione nella testata del condotto raffreddato ad acqua che porta i gas di scarico alla turbina, l’alzata variabile delle valvole con doppia regolazione dell’albero a camme. Performance su strada in linea coi valori al banco: velocità massima autolimitata di 250 km/h, accelerazione 0-100 km//h in appena 4,7 secondi.

VOLKSWAGEN GOLF 8 R: IL TELAIO

ERRE AL QUADRATO Tra le dotazioni più innovative di Golf 8 R è proprio il nuovo sistema di trazione integrale con distribuzione selettiva della coppia dell’asse posteriore. Lo schema a quattro ruote motrici è qui controllato da un Vehicle Dynamics Manager mai così strettamente integrato con gli altri sistemi, quali il controllo elettronico del differenziale anteriore XDS, il controllo adattivo del telaio DCC e lo sterzo progressivo. In questo modo, nuova Golf 8 R (più bassa di 20 mm rispetto alle sorelle civili) promette una trazione eccellente, una dinamica di guida neutra e precisa, un’agilità sorprendente. Più in dettaglio, il nuovo sistema di trazione integrale 4Motion con torque vectoring prevede un retrotreno multilink riprogettato per ripartire la coppia non solo tra avantreno e retrotreno, ma pure fra le stesse ruote posteriori. Grazie a frizioni distinte, il sistema centralizzato può lavorare in modo separato tra i due semiassi, inviando così anche il 100% della coppia disponibile a una ruota sola e frenare quella interna, così da ridurre il raggio di sterzata, mitigare il sottosterzo e neutralizzare eventuali errori di guida. Quattro le modalità di guida standard: Comfort, Sport, Race e Individual.

UPGRADE Con pacchetto opzionale R-Performance (grazie al quale la velocità massima raggiunge i 270 km/h), ecco anche i profili Special e Drift. Il primo è stato messo a punto al Nürburgring e si caratterizza per un settaggio più morbido del DCC rispetto alla più estrema modalità Race, ed è specifico per garantire massima aderenza anche sui manti ondulati. Tramite il programma Drift, invece, l’ESC si trasforma in ESC Sport e la distribuzione della potenza è calibrata - come suggerisce il nome - proprio per permettere le derapate (su strade chiuse al traffico). 

 

 

Piccola nota, la versione per il mercato americano è dotata di 315cv che sono 27cv in più rispetto alla precedente R presente sul mercato US. 

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Al seguente link articolo di Auto Motor Und Sport e video test su strada e su pista della Nuova Golf 8 R. 

 

https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/neuheiten/vw-golf-r-2020-top-golf-hinteraschssperre-nordschleife/

 

Qui invece l'articolo di Motor1: https://it.motor1.com/news/452271/nuova-volkswagen-golf-r-motore-prestazioni-prezzo/

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"Qualche emiro che compra una Ferrari lo troverò sempre. Ma se il ceto medio finisce in miseria, chi mi comprerà le Panda?"

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6 ore fa, Cole_90 scrive:

... e Drift, che per l’appunto permette di driftare cambiando i parametri del controllo di stabilità ed ottimizzando la potenza distribuita alla trazione.

 

Una golf per driftare...

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Perfetta per questi due

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7 ore fa, MotorPassion scrive:

Per quanto riguarda la parte meccanica qui di seguito riporto l'articolo di MotorBox che riprende i dati della cartella stampa ufficiale (che troveremo pubblicata domani assieme anche a tutte le foto ed i video). 

 

 

 

Ma quindi non è più Haldex?

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