bad_Q

/nerd mode on/

I think Project name for hypothetical Fiat 500 ICE should be 331 (hypothetical), the same way as they did with the rest of EV/ICE models:

600e - 365 / 600 Hybrid - 364

eDoblo - 361 / Doblo - 360

eScudo - 507 / Scudo - 506

from TOFAS annual report it was confirmed that Fiorino production will phase out this year.

"Fiorino production is planned to be terminated in June 2024 due to homologation requirements arising from GSR-II-B, which will be implemented in both Europe and Turkey."

almost 60k was made last year, mainly for TR market (production increased significantly last year due phase out of local made Doblo)

https://tofas.com.tr/YatirimciIliskileri/FaaliyetRaporlari/Documents/2023FaaliyetRaporu.pdf

considering wave of new concepts, I start to think about these leaks as about dropped proposal (for pandona or not-so-600, doesn't matter) as it have absolutely nothing in common with this new style 

just look at horizontal light signature, only model it is shared with was Doblo 2022, but at facelifted 2024 Doblo this line already disappeared

2 ore fa, MotorPassion scrive:

 

l'Azzurro Cangiante alla fine è il Celestial Blue che è in gamma fin dal lancio commerciale di 500E oppure è un colore che alla fine non verrà introdotto in gamma?

 

It is different color, launch one was tri-coat metallic and a bit lighter, this one is regular mettalic

I don't have colors codes to compare, but the decision to keep previous color name a bit confusing.

On 11/11/2023 at 14:56, MotorPassion scrive:

Scusate ma a Novembre non doveva debuttare la nuova gamma colori per 500e?

so... "Amalfi YELLOW" (Abarth anyone?), "Celestial BLUE" (but it looks bit different from previous colour with the same name), and "RED" (now available at every trim, not only at (RED))

no more Super and TI for MY24

https://www.ideal.es/motor/novedades/fiat-600e-aumenta-familia-hermano-mayor-500-20230704115122-ntrc.html?

😅

La Prima and (RED) as launch trims

13 minuti fa, bad_Q scrive:

 

 

 

 

and btw, this car is clearly prototype: huge gaps between body parts, not all interior details are set up, initially painted white then wrapped in silver

so, probably interior quality will be better than in first OFs snippets

https://www.media.stellantis.com/em-en/fiat/media-library/video/2193603/-1

another official image (but it didn't show anything new)

but there for sure "Dolcevita" word on the door threshold, probably name of open-top version

🤫

1 ora fa, j scrive:

 

 

Так что в Алжире будут производить 500, Doblò и новую модель, которая еще не объявлена. 

so, 500 line from Poland where it was to be dead till the end of this year will be removed to Algeria

but will it be updated to still sold them in EU? as for me, old but still glamorous 500 is not the most suitable car for Africa region, I'm not expecting much demand for local market only.

https://www.quattroruote.it/news/foto_spia/2023/02/28/fiat_b_suv_erede_500x_600_anticipazioni_uscita.html

Just launched in Turkey with diesel engine, it looks like it's the only market for ICE version of Ulysse at the moment

https://www.fiatprofessional.com/tr/ulysse/yeni-ulysse

https://www.tofas.com.tr/BasinOdasi/Bultenler/Pages/default.aspx

16 minuti fa, Fox84 scrive:

Scusate l'ignoranza, ma è la pagina pagina ufficiale di un social?

not official obviously

but I put logo there by myself, and I can confirm it is a real deal

he-he

https://en.wheelsage.org/lancia

they will show a cgi-render (or a scale model) of concept. Very futuristic and unreal, even no wheels, kind of Stratos Zero from space  or a giant bottle opener...

and a new logo, which is not a dramatic change from current one. it will retain the shape and colour, and get back some detailng lost in last redisign. i would rather say, this logo is overdetailed for nowadays simplification trends.

Progetto 394? not 332, as per Nuova 500

On 15/11/2022 at 14:21, bad_Q scrive:

So as i thought, they will just show same one-off trio from 2020 (armani, kartell, bvlgari) and announce north-america spec for next 2023 LA auto show, with sales in Q1 2024.

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/business/autos/chrysler/2022/11/17/fiat-electric-500e-north-america-2024/69651926007/