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Autoexpress(bmw's magazine) tested 159 1.9.....fantastic car but they were dissapointed from the performances....Too heavy they comment....the point is that they drove it after testing 3.2..... But they sum up with: "Despite this shortcoming, the Alfa's combination of gorgeous looks, stylish interior and competitive price is set to provide entry-level rivals with some long-overdue Italian competition

Goodwood Festival of Speed

The strange thing is that bridcage has the engine in the center-back and the article says that it will have alfa's v6 in the front......i am so confused...

underpinnings like?

Maserati coupe/spyder?I read that it won't be based to quattroporte platform with the new v10(100b$ project cancelled) but after the joint venture with alfa romeo they will use premium platform with v6 engines.............. Information taken from car magazine................ Isn't this bad for maserati's image?

It was supposed new maserati's to use v10 engine?

Also they said tha prototype bridcage will go in production with alfa v6 engine.

I read in english Car that new maserati coupe/spyder will be based in premium platform with Q4 and alfa's v6 engine.Taurus i want your comment...is this true or journalists want to make impressions with lies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Quattroruote belongs to groupo vag?

1.8Mpi is from opel or it has been desinged with Opel-Fiat-Gm(block)?

The Greek edition of AMS make a test drive of BMW 330... Specs.. 0-100km 7,1sec.... 0-120 9,6 0-140 12,4 0-400meters 15,0 0-1000m 25,7 100-0km 39,0 So we must all stop saying that 159 is slow...... 159 3.2 Q4 has been measurued in 0-100 6,9sec....what about 330xi?

1)I read that the difference between 1.9jts and 2.2jts is the stroke? 2)Will 2.4jtd be given to opel-saab-gm? 3)Autoscoops say that in 2006 1.8Mpi will be introduced. 4)1.9jtd of opel has better torque(32,6) than alfa romeo's 1.9jtd...

Except the monoblock everything else is alfa romeo made...right?

In page 69 i have posted the article.

Mr Taurus you were again right! In the article i posted read the specs for 3.2 3.2 Model: Alfa 159 3.2 Q4 Price: £28,000 approx, on sale December Engine: 3,195cc, V6 cylinders, 24 valves, 260bhp at 6,200rpm, 237lb ft at 4,500rpm Transmission: six-speed gearbox, front-wheel drive Performance: 149mph, 0 to 60mph in 6.9 seconds, 24.6mpg official average CO2: 167g/km So they measured 0-100 in 6.9.You are right because the figures Alfa Romeo has given are the true specs of 159 in real road conditions and measured in ECE. Alfa Romeo gives for 3.2 0-100 in 7sec and they measured 6.9...this is an answer to all saying that 159 will be slower even than the specs it has given. In the other hand you are again right because Bmw measures it's cars in Din so it gives for 330 0-100 in 6.3 but also it gives in ECE 0-100 6.6....so in reality it will be around to 6.7.And as you said we must compare 159Q4 with 330xi which is heavier... From bmw's site £28,460 Petrol 29% (30%) 2996cc Yes 32.5 (31.4) mpg 6.3 (6.6) But i still cannot understand where those specs you posted in the past come from? The only logical explanation i can give is that those are 159's specs measured in DIN. Your explanation was that this happens because of the difference in the gearbox....6.9 of 159 was measured with manual gearbox...i am confused. Automatic 3.2 JTS Q4: 7"0 e 240 km/h 2.4 Mjet 200cv: 8"5 e 228 km/h Manual 3.2 JTS Q4: 6"2 e 250 km/h 2.2 JTS: 8"0 e 232 km/h 1.9 JTS: 9"5 e 215 km/h 2.4 Mjet 200cv: 7"8 e 230 km/h 1.9 Mjet 150cv: 9"0 e 210 km/h 1.9 Mjet 120cv: 10"5 e 200 km/h

Except the block....the alouminium cylinder head is also made from Fiat-Gm powertrain?

Another good Review....Its the first article i have read that says that only the blocks are from Gm but specific they are from Fiat-Gm powertrain. http://motoring.independent.co.uk/road_tests/article226623.ece What do you get when you cross the flair and romance of the Alfa Romeo with the rock-solid dependency of Germany's finest? An Italian saloon car that is supremely seductive, says John Simister 3.2 Model: Alfa 159 3.2 Q4 Price: £28,000 approx, on sale December Engine: 3,195cc, V6 cylinders, 24 valves, 260bhp at 6,200rpm, 237lb ft at 4,500rpm Transmission: six-speed gearbox, front-wheel drive Performance: 149mph, 0 to 60mph in 6.9 seconds, 24.6mpg official average CO2: 167g/km This dramatic new Alfa Romeo is almost a fine example of a German car. What? Well, clearly the notion is nonsense because an Alfa is surely as Italian as a car can be. That is its fortune, because to drive an Alfa is to enter a world defined by values of aesthetics, engagement with the driving process, aural treats from eager engines, and a flurry of form for its own sake which may or may not add to pure function (which, on its own, is a bit German). But rational people like rational cars, and an Alfa is a bit frivolous, risqué even, for some cautious souls. Or so they think. They buy BMWs or Audis or Mercedes-Benzes instead, because these cars are German and therefore cooze quality, and are backed by fantastically efficient dealers, and confer upon their owners a kind of quasi-discerning conformity. Simple notions for people with simple prejudices. Now, please, welcome Alfa Romeo's handsome, engaging, tuneful and rather daring (to those secure in their big-brand Germans) 159. And face up to reality. Alfa Romeo's recently installed CEO is a German, Karl-Heinz Kalbfell, who has spent most of his working life with BMW and latterly its Rolls-Royce division. He's also a deep Alfa enthusiast. This is the ideal blend of attributes to make Alfas credible among those who default to the German brands but would secretly like something racier. Kalbfell is aware of the Alfa brand's emotive value, and his mission is to translate that into the sales that Alfas have long deserved. Having the right cars is one thing, having dealers keen to treat customers well is another. He is determined to fix both. Sorting out the dealers will be well under way by the time the 159 reaches the UK at the end of this year. And the car itself? It's a cracker. Alfa Romeo spark meets German-standard solidity, quality, integrity. But Kalbfell can't take take credit for that, because the design and engineering were largely complete before he arrived. Alfa's creators - including another German, design chief Wolfgang Egger - already knew what was needed, but Alfa's newly acquired German gene transplant doesn't preclude passione e emozione. The idea is that the 159 keeps the best attributes of the beautiful but frustrating 156 and adds the Germanic dimension hitherto absent, which will make for buyer confidence and long-term satisfaction. So the style is clearly a 156 evolution, bigger, roomier (now with folding rear seats), less classically beautiful but more assertive. Where the shoulderline used to fade out and in again as it travelled through the doors is now a solid, tough ridge, and the concealed rear door handles are no more. But the stubby tail is similar, as are the nose (inspired by that of the Brera coupé concept) and the interior look. There are almost no parts carried over from the 156. The longer-wheelbase platform is all new, and in shortened form will also underpin the production version of the Brera. The petrol engines are also new, with Alfa's own cylinder direct-injection heads and fully variable valve timing atop blocks from General Motors, the Fiat group's erstwhile business and technology partner. First to try is the 185bhp 2.2 JTS, likely to be the range's centre of gravity in the UK just as the 156 2.0 was. It's simultaneously similar and novel to sit in, with familiar dials sunk into pods and angled towards the driver, but with a new feeling of quality and substance. The leather look of the dashboard is convincing, and a 159 interior in black, with contrasting beige or dark red leather seats, oozes Italian style in a highly covetable way. Firmly comfortable seats and a fine driving position set a promising scene, so it's a pity the handbrake is awkward to use. It's on the right of the centre tunnel, to make space for storage, and in this left-hand-drive car it means I'm groping my passenger if I'm not careful. There'll be less intimacy in a right-hand-drive 159, but the lever will be too close to your pulling arm. To the road. And have no fears about the new engine's Alfa-ness, because this one sounds almost exactly like the old 2.0 Twin Spark, (possibly the most charismatic four-cylinder production engine of recent years) with a lovely edge to its exhaust note and a crisp, eager response. It pulls better from low speed than its predecessor, too, although the 159's ample mass "just shy of a ton-and-a-half" blunts the thrust a bit. So far, so excellent. It gets better. The 156 had an unusual steering response, initially soft then very fast. It held the road well but made a real meal out of some bumps, especially the too-stiff Sport-suspension versions. All is fixed in the 159. The steering is more progressive in its response, although still keen and a little too light, and apart from a bit of fidget on ripply roads, the 159 rides well. Next up, the 2.4 JTD, the familiar five-cylinder turbodiesel, now uprated to 200bhp and a massive 295lb ft of torque. This is the head-meets-heart model in the range, with brilliant overtaking ability and a meagre appetite for fuel. The range also includes a 150bhp, four-cylinder JTD turbodiesel and a 160bhp petrol engine, both of 1.9 litres,but the pinnacle comes with the 3.2 V6 JTS Q4. The quickest 156, the GTA, had 250bhp, front-wheel drive and questionable decorum in its traction and suspension. This ultimate 159 has 260bhp but four-wheel drive to transfer it to the road, nominally 57 per cent of it to the back wheels, 43 per cent to the front, but alterable as grip conditions dictate. This is it. This is the best Alfa Romeo saloon there has ever been, the car whose halo will best dazzle the German opposition. Not only is it rapid, with smooth torque across a broad rev-range and lots of energy at the top of it, but it flows round corners with the nonchalance of an Audi laced with the point-and-drift thrills of a BMW. It's taut, responsive, interactive, all those driver-pleasing things, yet it rides comfortably too. Here is the Alfa that we have wanted for years. This top 159 will probably cost about £28,000, but the range should begin at about £10K below that. If you're bored with the obvious German rivals, it looks like there's an enticing escape route at last.

Why we don't put in the comparizon 350z-rx8?

I have read many test drives of 159 to 4car,autocar,autoexpress.....and everyone says that it uses Gm engines with some upgrades for more power and revised exaust sustem for traditional sound.....I haven't read anywhere that the only COMMON between Jts and Gm is the BLOCK of the engine and the rest manovelism mabe by alfa romeo.So why alfa romeo did not make clear to the journalists that the only common is the block...Maybe they have more commons?......like materials of pistons,camshafts....?

Optional Descrizione 007 CAMBIO AUTOMATICO 018 BATTICALCAGNO 023 ALZACRISTALLO ELETTRICO POSTERIORE 025 CONDIZIONATORE ARIA 064 SUPERBLOCCAGGIO 070 CRISTALLI POSTERIORI OSCURATI 080 PRED. RADIONAVIGATORE 082 PREDISPOSIZIONE AUTORADIO 097 FENDINEBBIA 102 TERGILAVAFARI 103 TENDINE RIPARO SOLE 108 RUOTE IN LEGA LEGGERA 110 UGELLI RISCALDATI PER TERGICRISTALLO 129 ADATTAMENTI PER I PAESI FREDDI 136 SEDILI ANT.REG.ELET.LATO GUIDA C/MEMORIA 140 CONDIZIONATORE AUTOMATICO 151 AIR BAG GINOCCHIA LATO PASSEGGERO 155 INSERTI VERO LEGNO 156 INSERTI IN ALLUMINIO 177 SEDILI ANT.REGOLABILI ELETTRICAMENTE 195 SEDILE POSTERIORE SDOPPIATO 204 CONDIZIONATORE SUPPLEMENTARE 211 SELLERIA PELLE 213 ALLARME 230 PROIETTORI A SCARICA DI GAS 240 SEGGIOLINO BAMBINI 245 COMANDI AUTORADIO SU VOLANTE 320 VOLANTE+POMELLO CAMBIO IN PELLE 321 VOLANTE SPORTIVO 341 SPECCHI EST. ABATT. C.COMANDO ELETTR. 347 SENSORE PIOGGIA 365 SISTEMA CONTROLLO PRESS.PNEUMATICI(TPMS) 384 DISPOSITIVO RILEVAMENTO ODORI 385 DISPOSITIVO RILEVAMENTO APPANNAMENTO 392 VEHICLE DYNAMIC CONTROL 396 SOVRATAPPETI 399 TETTO APRIBILE ELETTRICO LUNGO 400 TETTO APRIBILE ELETTRICO 407 COMANDO CAMBIO ROBOTIZZATO SELESPEED 416 CRUISE-CONTROL 431 RUOTE IN LEGA EXTRA SERIE 1 432 RUOTE IN LEGA EXTRA SERIE 2 433 RUOTE IN LEGA EXTRA SERIE 3 434 RUOTE IN LEGA EXTRASERIE 4 (N° 5) 439 RUOTE IN LEGA EXTRA SERIE 6 44J SEDILI ANT. CON BASCULAMENTO 452 SEDILI ANT.RISCALDATI 4A3 WOOD PACK 4B5 ALLUMINIUM PACK 508 SENSORE DI PARCHEGGIO 511 3° APPOGGIATESTA POSTERIORIE 525 SPECCHI INTERNI ESTERNI ELETTROCROMICI 52B SENSORE PARCHEGGIO POSTERIORE 52Y RISCALDATORE PTC PER DIESEL 530 CD PER NAVIGATORE MAPPA ITALIA 533 CD PER NAVIGATORE MAPPA GERMANIA 537 CD PER NAVIGATORE MAPPA FRANCIA 538 CD PER NAVIGATORE MAPPA BELGIO 540 CD PER NAVIGATORE MAPPA OLANDA 542 CD PER NAVIGATORE MAPPA SVIZZERA 548 CD PER NAVIGATORE MAPPA AUSTRIA 549 CD PER NAVIGATORE MAPPA SVEZIA/DANIMARCA 554 CD PER NAVIGATORE MAPPA UK 55B SISTEMA ATTIVO PROTEZIONE URTO PEDONE 55G CONVERGENCE C1 55Y CONVERGENCE C3 563 CD CHANGER 564 AUTORADIO CON CD SINGOLO 574 CD PER NAVIGATORE MAPPA SPAGNA 57J PARAB. RIFLET. INFRAROS.CON FASCIA SCURA 58J SPEC EST ABBATT. COM. ELETTR. C. MEMORIA 58X NAVIGATORE A MAPPE + TELEFONO 5BH COMANDO MARCE AL VOLANTE 618 SPORT SCHUMACHER 717 AUTORADIO EXTRA SERIE 2 718 SISTEMA AUDIO HI-FI 728 SELLERIA EXTRASERIE 751 KIT SPORTIVO 790 PAESI FREDDI TROPICALIZZATI 803 RUOTINO DI SCORTA 833 PREDISPOSIZIONE CELLULARE 850 LIBRETTO ITALIANO 851 LIBRETTO FRANCESE 852 LIBRETTO INGLESE 853 LIBRETTO TEDESCO 856 LIBRETTO SPAGNOLO 898 LIBRETTO PORTOGHESE 904 NUCLEO TELEMATICO NAVIG. A MAPPE 912 ESTINTORE 980 RUOTA SCORTA IN LAMIERA DIMENS.NORMALI 982 RUOTA DI SCORTA IN LEGA DIMENS. NORMALI

I mean that the mirrors of 159-passat look the same....do they have common suplier?

Fare il alfaromeo e Vag ha fot lo stesso più suplier gli specchi… 159 e Passat hanno lo stesso.

Taurus ha detto che il lexus ha copiato l'iniezione diretta dei jts .....Che cosa lo ha fatto esattamente copie? http://www.cuorialfisti.com/Tecnica/JTS.htm

Gta days at Balocco part 3 Click and see some beautiful alfa's including 159 http://www.automobilismo.it/edisport/automobilismo/notizie.nsf/AllDocID/I9A4E23C31FCA000DC1257026005C3EE4?OpenDocument