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On 31/07/2025 at 10:19, nucarote said:
Non è che De Meo abbia fatto questi grandissimi investimenti anzi...
Alla fine Alpine altro non è che il rebranding di Renault Sport con l'aggiunta di qualche modello simil DS, in ogni caso ci vedo poco da tagliare da quelle parti. Al massimo ci sarà una razionalizzazione dei modelli in gamma tipo Captur, Arkana e Symbioz che diventeranno un solo modello così come Austral, Espace e Rafale e soprattuto estensioni delle JV e outsourcing già applicata con Twingo.
Hmh...
First of a lot depends on ICE ban in Europe. Things CAC change.
But speaking about models you've mentioned. I could see 3 of them being kept in the lineup if not 4. Just 2? Surely not.
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Ralph Gilles news is IMO good. I don't like PSA design, especially interior.
The question is. The french guy. Is he out?
Picat is out as is French gal responsible for product planning.
IMO we could see more management changes in the coming months.
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1 hour ago, nucarote said:
Filosa è il Gattuso di Stellantis.
In ogni caso in un ipotetica Stellault mi sa che ci sarà un'altro Luca o un Vigna o comunque una figura di questo genere qua.
I hope not. Gattuso's qualities and knowledge as footbal coach is very limited.
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But PSA way of doing thing and using their tech brought nothing good.
If I'm not mistakes STLA fall of from almost 25% of combined market share at one moment to mere 16%. How is that good?
I repeat. PSA was they one which according to some knows how to fix things and how to make cars in Europe.
At the time I disagreed. Unfortunately I have right.
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On 6/12/2025 at 11:06 PM, Davialfa said:
Può forse essere che come del resto diversi "grandi esperti" italiani, Stellantis in Europa aveva la parte ex psa più avanti e nel resto del mondo la parte più fca piu avanti? Quindi sostanzialmente si è seguita nei rispettivi continenti sviluppo e tecnologia della parte preponderante?
Ma è un concetto così complicato da capire?
Oltretutto mi par di vedere che con tavares anche in Francia la produzione sia calata di anno in anno
Disagree. On engine side FCA has nothing to be shy about. The same about many electrification projects.
Car platforms may be different but IMO ex PSA did nothing to further develop their platforms to suit FCA brands.
Not to mention poor product planing. I'm stil wondering why is Peugeot 2008 out of all (6 in total) STLA B segments SUVs is the only one on the long wheelbase version of CMP platform.
CMP platform offers poor packaging and making car on short wheelbase version makes them uncompetitive.
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Nice looking car but that's it.
Basically a FWD only Jeep. It even doesn't have beloved Uconnect.
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14 hours ago, maxsona said:
La nuova Golf la fanno anche MHEV, e, tra l'altro, con un motore a quattro cilindri invece che a tre ...
Wow wow doesn't have P2 or P3 MHEV on Golf and sisters.
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On 4/27/2025 at 12:07 PM, nucarote said:
Per il GPL useranno il 1.2 TCE che molto probabilmente sarà ancora indiretto per questa variate. Il problema secondo me sarà la disponibilità la vecchia Clio GPL arrivò dopo quasi un anno dalla presentazione, però ci fu anche la pandemia di mezzo.
1.2 tCe LPG is both multipoint and direct injected.
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4 hours ago, __P said:
Al lancio la 4xe sarà la full electric da 360 cv. Poi mi pare di ricordare che ci sarà in una delle varianti PHEV.
La versione MHEV 4xe da quanto sapevo io, ma notizie di parecchio tempo fa, era stata considerata ma non approvata, ed secondo me a ragione, visto che si parla di mezzo metro di lamiera in più rispetto ad Avenger.How they plan to sell it in US with such powertrain choice and without mechanical AWD?
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According to this site it's both GDI and MPI:
https://www.auto-data.net/en/dacia-bigster-1.2-eco-g-140hp-lpg-53508
But also form what I remember from YouTube videos during Bigster's unveil many journalists said that's it's dual injection which only makes sense.
Clio LPG should have 120 HP.
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They can use Italian V6 if they want a proper QV. I would argue that V6 has more character than Inline 6.
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They need bigger and more powerful P2 MHEV or HEV, with better transmission than Punch.
And of course they would need a diesel.
I don't know if this platform can have a 4x4, classic 4x4. It's essential for American market.
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So basically... Car will grow in size on the outside but no on the inside... Engine choice will be poor with BEV first approach. It will be (prohibitively) expensive.
What could go wrong with sales? Ehm.
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On 2/21/2025 at 7:22 PM, Kay195 said:
And then if we really want to indulge the Americans' "no replacement for displacement" philosophy (even if downsizing is affecting them too) they can easily fit the EP6 that the C3 and 208 fit outside the EU.
But I don't think the game is worth the candle.
C3 and 208 have 1.6 from TU family.
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From what I understood EB2 indeed was chosen in Europe because of thinking that internal combustion engines would be soon death in Europe.
If I got it right even internal analysis has shown that GSE would be a better choice in the long term.
But...
Speaking of diesel. 2.2 diesel for all car models is preferable, of course at various power levels and it's desirable to have it as aluminium engine block for passenger cars.
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STELLANTIS - 1.6 EP6 Gen3 EVT Full Hybrid
in Elettrificazione e Tecnologie per l'Ambiente
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So...
Stellantis used Toyota owned suppliers to develop this. I knew this for some time.
Maybe it's even identical to Toyota solutions. I don't know that.
What's wrong. European brand fans do not like scooter like effect.
And yes. Tavares choose EP6. He killed 2.0 Miller development.
From what I've heard Carlos was all for BEV development for American and Italian R&D. Internal combustion engine development was reserved for ex Peugeot.
I'm not sure if we can call this a Miller cycle engine. Still compression ratio is somewhat too low.