Bare

DS as reference? 🤦‍♂️

This is 100% PSA project.

Very sad news.

I'm boycotting 100% PSA products so this one will not be different.

@aboutdas

Medium? Which Medium?

It's all on the Large.

On 5/6/2022 at 11:18 AM, Gengis26 said:

Bè anche i costruttori non vorrebbero le multe sulla CO2, ed invece ci sono.

 

Pensi che con le con 1000 auto di un'azienda si ripaghino le multe?

 

Concordo con te che è un meccanismo che va contro i gusti del cliente. Ma a Stellantis (come per tutte le aziende del comparto) interessa il fatturato.

IMO, it's all about politics. Just vote for those who are against this foolish European "New Green Deal" and situation will change overnight. 

Fleet CO2 reduction is nothing but a political decision.

On 5/6/2022 at 11:30 AM, Marco1975 said:

Già e a noi aziende interessa mandare fuori venditori per vendere e fare profitto senza investire in 50 charging stations e con rate leasing raddoppiate e consumo di elettricità superiore al gasolio.

Cosa è dobbiamo sacrificarci per far piacere a stellantis ?

 

Poi non si parla di 1000 auto. Imparato dice che metà delle vendite di modelli come tonale vanno alle aziende. METÀ chiaro no ?

Hearing Imparato and also Tavares I have a feeling that we are living in a parallel world.

5 hours ago, Beckervdo said:

Sta allungando la catena un po' più del dovuto il signorino, ma il motore è buono.

https://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/127907/puegeot-2008--

There were some engine block cracks which are related to some problems which are common to GDI engines.

Rear suspension attachment points look like on the Stelvio. On the other hand suspension typology is modelled after the previous generation Grand Cherokee.

Let's say that platform itself has a Giorgio as a starting point. No doubt about it. But of course it has some unique solutions which were necessary for a Jeep.

But even when platform will be called STLA-L we will see some unique suspension solutions for some products. At least it seems that way right now. Of course if Le Cost Cutter don't put his fingers into it.

On 4/16/2022 at 3:46 PM, __P said:

Grand Cherokee non si basa su piattaforma Giorgio US. 😉

Said by whom?

😂🤐

@Beckervdo

WTF?!

4 hours ago, AlfaZeta6 said:

Alfa Romeo Falzarego, Pordoi, Giau, Gavia, Sellaronda, Gardena

Kronplatz

Baby Jeep will be unveiled before the end of this year.

When we can expect first media drives?

Will some cars be on EMP2 v4 or on STLA-M. Those two are not one and the same.

Beautiful choice of killing eMini and going with shitty CMP. Thank You mister Le Cost Cutter!

Cherokee -> STLA Large

I would not be too optimistic. Based on what I've seen I would say that R&D will be far from Italy for mass market brands. For big cats Auburn Hills will be the leader while for FWD platforms there are ex PSA R&D centers.

4.6 m

22 minutes ago, __P said:

Mi pare ci sia in sviluppo una crossover…

@Bare hai qualche infin più?

🤐

6 -> STLA-L

14 hours ago, __P said:

Ragazzi, il T6 avrà applicazioni sui marchi americani in sostituzione dei V8 Hemi Standard. Non c’è mai stata nessuna intenzione di usarlo ne su AR ne tanto meno su Maserati.

 

Maserati ha il suo Nettuno, Alfa ha il suo V6 Quadrifoglio che avrà vita fino alla EOP di Stelvio e Giulia attuali, se non cambiano idea nel prossimo futuro.

What you are talking about is Manley's plan which was inherited by French.

Marchionne was always more grandiose and V6 90° in all of its versions was planned to be used by Alfa and Maserati which includes Nettuno. 

Not to mention that V6 90° was planned also with mid 400 HP power level.

400 HP? Ideal even for Italian brands on North American market. Or course with slightly more tech like Multiair. 

3 minutes ago, Beckervdo said:

normale. Ma lo spray arc o il trattamento dlc è replicabile solo in rettifiche specializzate. C'èda dire che nel 2022 è raro trovare un monoblocco da rettificare.

 

Io credo che in FCA hanno preso il B58 di BMW e l'hanno ricalcato di pari passo

 

https://youtu.be/UUKc3yhmCOk

On 3/22/2022 at 7:58 PM, Beckervdo said:

Same analysis Bare. With Porsche's Engine above 1000 °C too, it was already now from techical papers wich refer to continuous problems to the VGT.

850° C are however a high temperature for a turbocharger with VGT for "mass-market" use

I'll correct myself. 1.5 TSI 130 HP which operates under Miller cycle has 880°C exhaust temperature. Original version showcased at Wolfsburg had Garrett turbocharger. But here we are talking about 2016. Today it's 2022.

Today Garret has VGT capable for 1020°C exhaust temperature while for Borg Warner it's 980°C.

There is a reason why 1.5 TSI Miller has torque limited to just 200 Nm.

1.5 TSI with 150 HP is not Miller.