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Expect the alluminium.....Do you know if ALFA ROMEO-BMW-AUDI have common provider for the polymer material used to panel-doors....etc?
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You are absolute right..... So when we will see the true performances? Also why did alfa netherlands(official member of alfa romeo family) has given false numbers?
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Mr taurus in the past you have given different specs... M6/S6=manual,selespeed 6g. AS6=Automatic 6g. 3.2JTS Q4 M6/S6 6"2 250 3.2JTS Q4 AS6 7"0 240 2.4JTDm M6 7"5 235km/h 2.4JTDm AS6 8"4 228km/h 2.2JTS M6/S6 7"7 230km/h 1.9JTS M6/S6 9"0 220km/h 1.9JTDm M6 9"4 220km/h 1.9JTDm M6 11"0 200km/h 159 3.2 vs Bmw 330 vs A4 3.2 vs Merc C350 AR 159 2.4JTDm M6 7"5 235km/h 200 CV Audi A4 2.5 TDI M6 8"8 227km/h 160 CV Audi A4 3.0 TDI quattro M6 7"2 235km/h 204 CV MB C 270 CDI M6 8"9 230km/h 170 CV AR 159 1.9JTDm M6 9"4 220km/h 150 CV BMW 320d M6 8"3 225km/h 163 CV Audi A4 2.0 TDI M6 9"7 212km/h 140 CV MB C 220 CDI M6 10"1 224km/h 150 CV AR 159 1.9JTDm M6 11"0 200km/h 120 CV MB C 200 CDI M6 11"7 208km/h 122 CV AR 159 1.9JTS M6/S6 9"0 220km/h 160 CV BMW 320i M6 9"0 220km/h 150 CV...(9.okto) Audi A4 1.8 TFSI M6 8"6 225km/h 163 CV MB C 200 K M6 9"1 234km/h 163 CV AR 159 2.2JTS M6/S6 7"7 230km/h 185 CV BMW 325i M6 7"5 245km/h 218 CV Audi A4 2.0 TFSI M6 7"3 241km/h 200 CV MB C 230 K M6 8"1 240km/h 192 CV
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Do you know the Material Suplier for polymer used to panel-doors?I have read that Alfa Romeo-Bmw-Audi use the same suplier and for example Gt coupe's materials are more expensive than A4 and E46.Has the main console of 159 real ALUMINUM?....It seems like plastic and different from the alouminum of the steering wheel-gearbox.
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http://lnx.stiloclub.it/forum/download.php?id=2687&sid=20b4145f8416e033d43651aa2f65de44 http://lnx.stiloclub.it/forum/download.php?id=2688&sid=20b4145f8416e033d43651aa2f65de44
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I read that the sales of brera start in Great Britain in about one month.....is that true?
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As taurus has said and he is right....... Don'n forget that Germans meaure their cars in DIN but italians measure in ECE=DIN+75KG(DRIVER) For example if you go to bmw's uk site it says for bmw 320-0-100 in 9.sec but it also gives (9.7)....the second is the real 0-100!
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Test Drive Review INTRODUCTION If this doesn't do it, it's hard to know what will. We're talking about Alfa Romeo's eternal quest to create a car able to rival BMW's ubiquitous 3-Series: not an Italian BMW, but a car of equivalent worth and desirability which retains its Italian characteristics (the good ones, at least). The 159 is the first Alfa to be launched under new Alfa CEO Karl-Heinz Kalbfell, formerly of BMW and Rolls-Royce and a declared Italophile when it comes to cars. The design and engineering of this 156 replacement were almost finished when he arrived, but his arrival has certainly concentrated Alfa minds and encouraged those who wanted this car to be as good as possible. It goes on sale in most of Europe very soon, but its UK launch is delayed until the end of the year to make time for the planned overhaul of Alfa dealers and their customer service attitudes - the chief reason for the handsome and likeable 156's slide down the sales charts. If we're talking about the V6, this would be a five-star rating. The four-wheel drive transmission means there's none of the bad behaviour suffered by the 156 GTA, which aimed to channel 250bhp through its front wheels alone, and the V6 Q4's handling is a delight. It points like a rear-wheel drive car and corners quickly with a gentle tail-out stance, yet the front wheels pull it straight should too much be asked of the rears. Similarly, there's almost no understeer when entering a corner quickly, because the Torsen-C centre differential diverts torque rearwards if the front wheels have too much to cope with. That 47/53 torque split is just the starting point, alterable as needed. It all makes for a highly enjoyable, very fluid drive. The steering is very quick to respond, high-geared like the 156's, but the action is more progressive now and the turning circle is no longer bus-like. It feels slower in the nose-heavy, front-drive version of the 2.4 JTD, and there's more understeer as you'd expect, but the 2.2 JTS has the agility of the V6 if not quite the flowing style. This four-cylinder car's steering is a little too light for its directness and accuracy, though. All three 159 variants, the ones samples by 4Car to date, are a responsive, eager drive. All have a good driving position, too, with firm but comfortable seats and clear instrumentation. The handbrake, to the right of the centre tunnel, means that drivers of left-hand drive 159s (such as those we tested) will be stroking passengers' arms inadvertently, though, and for right-hand drive the handbrake might be too near to the driver for easy operation. Brakes are progressive in action, the gearchange is smooth and accurate. All 159s have a separate starter button, operated after the 'key' is placed in a slot, so there's no conventional steering lock and ignition key to damage knees in an accident Traditional sound as Fusi has said Clearly the V6 is fastest - it does 149mph and reaches 62mph in 7.0 seconds - and its flat torque curve makes the performance easy to exploit. It sounds delicious, too, the usual Alfa V6 note reproduced convincingly on this all-new engine. The 2.2 JTS also sounds correctly Alfa-esque, this time much like the old 2.0 Twin Spark complete with crisp-edged exhaust note. It has rather more low-speed pull than that engine, though, while still reaching 62mph in 8.8 seconds and a maximum speed of 138mph. The petrol engines' natural enthusiasm is one reason why you might favour them over a diesel, but the 2.4 JTD is as muscular and sonorous a unit as ever. It's very energetic with its newly-enhanced outputs of 200bhp and 295lb ft, too, able to reach 142mph and sprint to 62mph in 8.4sec - so it's notably quicker than the 2.2 JTS as well as more relaxed and more economical. Torque figures for the 2.2 and 3.2 petrol engines, incidentally, are 170lb ft and 237lb ft respective SAFETY AND SECURITY RATING: The usual boxes are ticked here, with up to eight airbags (all 159s have at least seven), active front head restraints to reduce whiplash, and stability control - Alfa Romeo calls it VDC rather than ESP - as standard. This Vehicle Dynamic Control includes a hill-holder device acting on the brakes to stop rolling back on a hill start. Tyre-pressure monitors are standard, and the whole car is built into a structure claimed to be stiffer even than BMW's very stiff new 3-Series.The lack of a mechanical steering lock improves the safety of the driver's knees (there's also a knee airbag), and the fact that the lock is electronic improves security. The pedals are designed to collapse under heavy impact, too. There's no EuroNCAP rating yet but it would be surprising if the 159 didn't score at least four stars. COMFORT AND EQUIPMENT RATING: Here's an Alfa with, at last, a genuinely good ride. It doesn't run out of front suspension travel like the 156 did, it dives less under braking and its damping is better controlled. The taut, responsive handling isn't achieved at the expense of excessive firmness underfoot, and a sport suspension option is neither available nor necessary. Wheels can be up to 18-inch diameter, although 16in or 17in are usual and inevitably make for better absorption of small bumps. The smaller, lighter engines lead to a slightly more fidgety ride, so the 2.2 JTS proves less serene than, say, the 2.4 JTD and there's a hint of engine shake over ripply surfaces. But it's still a big improvement over the 156 and compares well with Audi and BMW rivals. Road and wind noise are low enough not to be an issue. There's fair space in the cabin, even in the back, and the rear seats' backrests fold down to increase boot space. Be careful leaving the front passenger seat, though, because it's easy to catch a knee on the protruberant dashboard. Air-con is dual-zone as standard, triple-zone optionally, and there's an air-quality sensor. Other equipment, standard or optional, includes MP3 capability in the CD player, a Bose sound system, a built-in phone, Bluetooth compatibility, Connect telematics to go with a large sat-nav screen, and parking sensors. Seats can be trimmed in flock fabric, Alfatex, leather or soft-touch 'Frau' leather, or you can have a Sport interior with so-called Tibet leather.
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Taurus!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Whats going on with 159 performance.....it seems that Graturismos specs are more reliable....(automatic-manual gerabox??)....Is 159 so slow?
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Alfa Brera------4/Z4,CLK/SLK,TT Alfa Brera V6-----Porsche Cayman/Cayman S Alfa Brera GTA----Porsche Carrera 4S Alfa Spider----TT/SLK/Z4 Alfa Spider V6---- Porsche Boxster Alfa Spider GTA---Porsche Carrera 4S Cabrio Alfa 8c Competizione----F430 CS,911 GT2 Maserati Spyder '5000'------SL55AMG/911 turbo/911 turbo cabrio/V8 Vantage/V8 Vantage Volante Maserati 5000GT------DB9/M6/CL55 AMG Alfa 169 V6------------MB CLS350 Alfa 169 V8 & GTA-----MB CLS500/CLS AMG/Porsche Panamera Maserati Quattroporte------Jaguar XJR/BMW 750i/750Li/MB S500/S500L Maserati Quattroporte V12----Bentley Continental Flying Spur Maserati MC12 ----Enzo Ferrari/F60(2007),Carrera GT,SLR
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Luggage-width?
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Does anyone knows the dimensions of the new PUNTO????????????????????
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Taurus has said that the new maserati spider/coupe platform will be based in Quattroporte's platform.
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Is it true that it will use uniar and it will boost 540hp??????????
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Red hot chili pepper http://www.supercars.net/pitlane/pics/1237220b.jpg http://www.supercars.net/pitlane/pics/1237220c.jpg http://www.supercars.net/pitlane/pics/1237220d.jpg
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Will Fiats 1.8MPI be used as entry level to 159?
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Stupid englishmen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!An article full o bullshits!!!They say that F430 HAS 0-100 in 4.4......how silly people are englishmen...full of complex against italians piece of art... I've got the article and to be honest it's nothing to get worked up over, it's basically a few (not even a comprehensive test) lines waxing lyrical about the M5. I'm surprised there wasn't a "sponsored by BMW" advert at the end. M5 Vs F430? a super-saloon Vs a SportCar? My mind goes to the Car's cover "Shock: Ford GT beats Challange Stradale" (Gt 5.4l supercharged beats 360 CS 3.6l atmo cause performances...). This is the tipical UK-excuse to write "Ferrari lose" I've just read the last part of the article: M5 beats F430 because has 4 seats and a real luggage van..... HAHAHHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHA Strange things: when they tested the Enzo, they didn't write about comfort or power-steering, they wrote ENZO IS NOT FASTER THAN MC LAREN. I'll buy Autocar never again Heres the article http://www.supercars.net/pitlane/pics/1236353c.jpg http://www.supercars.net/pitlane/pics/1236353d.jpg http://www.supercars.net/pitlane/pics/1236355c.jpg http://www.supercars.net/pitlane/pics/1236355d.jpg http://www.supercars.net/pitlane/pics/1236356c.jpg http://www.supercars.net/pitlane/pics/1236356d.jpg http://www.supercars.net/pitlane/pics/1236359c.jpg http://www.supercars.net/pitlane/pics/1236359d.jpg
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Will brera Luxury version have Pneumatici suspension?
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Italy 2.2JTS Distinctive EUR 38.000 2.4JTDm Distinctive EUR 40.000 3.2JTS Q4 Distinctive EUR 46.000 Manual 6 speed SELESPEED 1500euro Versions - DISTINCTIVE (base) - SKY VIEW - LUXURY DISTINCTIVE: - hifi bose - 17' R - Sedili in pelle - Climatizzatore - Bi-Xenon SKY VIEW ha ( DISTINCTIVE+): -skyview (EUR 2000) LUXURY(SKYVIEW+): - Sport pack - 18' R - Pneumatici suspension 235 -Leather in panel - Recaro - Navigator (EUR 7000)
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Is Gallardo's v10 engine made by lamborghini or it is the connection of two 5cylinder audis engine?
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