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e una 147
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Sakiss, I don't quite understand you're post - it is about the MF1, and is not related to the Ferrari F60?
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939 = Alfa 159 940 = Alfa 149 941 = Alfa 169 946 = Alfa Brera / Spider (but they have 939 chassis code)
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But the Fiat Grande Punto petrol Turbo will have the same 4-bolt pattern? I am asking because a Grande Punto is at the Nurburgring but it is heavily disguised. I don't understand why it is so disguised. I was thinking maybe it is a muletto for the 149, but it has the wrong wheel hubs.
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Does anybody know for certain if the Alfa 149 will have a 4, or a 5 bolt hub pattern? The Grande Punto has a 4-bolt pattern. Will the Grande Punto Abarth also have a 4-bolt pattern?
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Have Alfa been testing the 149, or a "Sprint" version of it at the Opel test track in Dudenhofen, Germany?
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Can you confirm if the wheelbase of the original Sportiva Evoluta Chassis is 2.7 metres, the same as the Sportiva Latina?
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A good answer, thanks. I was not aware that the car still had a good offroad capability with these wheels. I have heard several stories about 4x4's which have had problems with such low profile tyres - even such things as tyres bursting when mounting a small pavement. But then the Porsche Cayenne does have good off-road performance for its class, with low profile tyres. I also agree with you that the term "pointless" is perhaps a relative one - to me this car is tasteless, but everybody has different taste. Reactions in the USA have been very positive for this concept car, I am glad to report. Its main point, as you put it, is a promotion tool for the other cars in the Fiat line-up. I follow the view by Aristotle, who said "With regard to excellence, it is not enough to know it, but one has to have it and use it." To me, this concept car does not fall under excellence - whereas a 612 does.
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OK, a fair point for the Iveco MLV - but with those huge wheels, this car is being branded as a pimp mobile.... the type of car that will never be taken off road. With those huge wheels, I even doubt its off road capabilities.... I would understand it if the concept car had different wheels. But then, I suppose concept cars always have big wheels. The problem I have Taurus, is the 'civilian' idea behind the concept. I can't really think of anywhere in the world, other than a country such as Saudi Arabia, where such a vehicle would be of use.
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Doesn't this concept clash with the current world wide trend towards producing environmentally friendly cars (such as the Mercedes-Benz Bionic, the Opel Astra Diesel Hybrid)? At a time when fuel prices are sky high, surely this POINTLESS concept car is going to harm Fiat's reputation in caring about the environment? What do you think, Taurus?
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I have to say that I was a bit sceptical when I first saw the pictures. But the concept car looks far better in the motorshow pics posted by Taurus - especially the paint. Timing wise I think the concept is two years late. I think the car could do with smaller wheels with a higher profile - this 'bling bling' thing is an area where a lot of money can be made, but half of the point is that the customers see the potential in a vehicle to tune it themselves. Do people agree with me that the money could have been spent better?
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I think Fiat Spa own 80.5% of Teksid. http://www.fiatgroup.com/comuni/php/file_get.php?w=XOYGK44B1LEUIZW87RPZ
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This is plain stupid! I imagine that it might be a cheaper solution for the short term, but for the long run if would surely be far better if Alfa made duplicate castings and cast the parts they need in Italy, at one of the Teksid plants? All of this shipping around, taking engines apart sounds very inefficient to me. Can somebody explain the point of shipping complete Holden engines and then taking them to pieces, rather then sending engine kits with only the relevant parts for Alfa? The cost of each engine must be tremendous!
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I do not agree with you fully on this particular point Taurus. There is no excuse for Alfa Romeo delivering poor quality cars to journalists. Even if they are pre-series cars it does not take that much extra effort to fix small problems. The cars should go through a quality control process before they are handed over to journalists. If you blame the journalists for reporting such things then you are basically ignoring their influence on potential buyers. Alfa Romeo should know better - they know that Journalists will search for the smallest details, and that this will be relayed to the public... I myself think its unfair as well, but there are a lot of journalists who take full advantage of situations and you have to face up to reality. And place it in context of the car's unveiling as well - this was at Geneva in March... Some people simply do not understand the delay. PS: You don't have to defend every action that Fiat Auto undertake - one has to accept mistakes in order to learn and advance.
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I am trying to find out which tailor made these dresses for Alfa Romeo. Does anybody know?
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Sì è vero - Fiat ha "schiacciato" l'altezza dell'immagine.
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Yes - this is a photoshop. But this is real:
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Aha! Grazie mille... In Holland it is not.
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The Fiat Panda 4x4 models, including the Panda SUV in 2006, were supposed to be available with the Mjet engine this year. Does anyone know if the Panda 4x4 Mjet will be at Bologna, or if any of the Panda SUV show cars will have the 1.3Mjet?
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It shocks me that Marchionne is still considering to base the Alfa 149 on the Premium platform (as he stated in his interview with Automotive News Europe). Are there two projects running alongside of each other - one with the compact platform and one with the premium platform - or will this mean that we might see a major delay in the launch date?
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MOTOR SHOW: ANTEPRIMA MONDIALE PER META,MINI-CAR ITALIANA (AGI) - Bologna, 19 nov. - Una novita' in piu' al prossimo Motor Show di Bologna: un'anteprima mondiale tutta Made in Italy. Si tratta di "Meta", innovativa e rivoluzionaria miniauto tutta italiana, (Dainese e Fiat), per design, tecnologia e meccanica, che sara' sul mercato da febbraio 2006 . Meta e' una proposta di trasporto alternativa alle due ruote ed alle quattro ruote classiche, una minicar dotata di tre motorizzazioni: diesel, benzina ed elettrica da 4 o 15 kw di potenza. La mini-car si avvale di nuove soluzioni tecnologiche, come il variatore integrato che lavora come un vero e proprio cambio automatico o il motore elettrico a chiusura ermetica ed esente da manutenzione, che permette una maggior durata nel tempo e il volante dotato di pannello con le informazioni relative alla diagnostica. Omologata dal Ministero dei Trasporti, nonostante le dimensioni, offre doti di sicurezza grazie al telaio realizzato a cella tubolare in concorrenza di forze, al fine di garantire la massima protezione al passeggero in caso di urti o impatti sia frontali che laterali.
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We don't know if the photograph is related to the Meta project. It comes from CRF. Also, I am not sure if it will be sold as a Fiat, or as a Meta... Meta might be a new brand, with a seperate show stand.
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http://www.italiaspeed.com/2005/cars/fiat/11/meta/2011.html A Microcar will be presented at Bologna!