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    Yes, Powertech was there for 15 years together with V8 version of it. But Pentastar replaced Chrysler SOHC V6 60°. It lasted for 17 years, 12 years if you look at 3.5 4 valves per cylinder with aluminium block made by Teksid. Pentastar is more direct replacement of that engine. They even share 96 mm bore. Of-course eventually Pentastar replaced all of them including Powertech V8 for Ram. Chrysler was known for maybe even to many engine offerings in the past. We'll see what will be with FCA. Although AFAIK and IMO they will not be overlapping between Pentastar and some other engines. GM made interesting alternations for newest version of their V6 engine. Bigger bore centers, from 103 mm I think they jumped to 106 mm for new Cadillac CT6 engines. Current rules set in the future are very hard to achieve without huge sales of PHEV. I think we are talking about 2025. Even a solution with a lot of 48V tech sounds like a much more achievable than that and for some here it sounds also like completely out of reach. We'll see what they will decide but FCA must not get complacent even if Trump softness the rules.
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    Well in 2021 when next generation od big American RWD sedans could be launched or could start selling that Pentastar will be a 10 years into production. IMO, that's not a short engine cycle. We'll see what will be in the future. But it seems that if there will ever be a turbo Pentastar V6 it will be unveiled for a a new Ram 1500 generation to take on Ford F-150 with EcoBoost. And there will be no car application for it. FCA sell a lot of big cars in the US and they need more efficient engines for CAFE. Even Marchionne said numerous time that 48V is the future. It's only matter of time when will 48V be more available at least for a middle market and not only for upscale or top of the line. IMO, it will be somewhere in the next 5 years.
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    Is it? AFAIK Alfa Romeo 690 T uses a LPDC (low pressure die cast) block and is produced by Italian firm just like new BMW's Reihen engine blocks.
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    Inline 6 with 48V tech can be similar in length to Inline 4. V6 could still be the choice for a top of the line sports versions. We'll see what will happen but IMO this Inline 6 could be more important for next generation Maserati modela than for Alfa Romeo. Maserati is now using American V6 engine blocks and those blocks wouldn't be around forever. We'll see what will happen. Also FCA needs a engine which could suit future Dodge products and as I said maybe even a future Maseratis. I don't believe that they will keep and develop a GME T6 parallel to Pentastar V6.
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    We'll see if they will ever make 1.5 I3 GME. 1.3(3) I4 GSE is close in size. BMW, Mercedes, Jaguar Land Rover and now it seems even a FCA goes to same or similar direction with engine development. But, yes, Mercedes could be the most similar. FCA needs I6 which could fit in Giulia/Stelvio engine bay.
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    http://www.allpar.com/news/2017/02/return-of-the-straight-six-36574 We'll see if it's true. I heard something more than what's not mentioned in article above. GME T6 could even mean a phase out of Pentastar V6. Naturally aspirated Pentastar will mostly be substituted by GME T4 (called Hurricane in FCA US form). Also this comes in line with something I heard some two and a half years ago. In the long term F160 V6 used by Maserati will be phased out. Some of them if not all will be replaced by V6 90°. Who knows, maybe will see a GME T6 in some Italian products.
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    @MacGeek Will they offer Veloce optics pack on European version of Giulia?
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    Hmh. He says interior is not on German level.
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    Aluminum block?
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    V6 diesel for Giulia and Stelvio? As I said the current one is little bit piggy. With to much weight you got a weight distribution to much messed up. IMO, the better solution would be to develop bi-turbo 2.2 diesel with up to 250 HP. It will cover most needs. And platform wideness has nothing with engine fit in case of Giulia and Stelvio. They already have V6 90° which is very wide. It's all about engine length here especially with that kind of steering system.
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    VM V6 diesel is a overweight and most probably no more fuel efficient than 2.0 280 HP gasoline engine.
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    Alfieri? Aluminium spaceframe? If it's a aluminum spaceframe than IMO Mirafiori is a more desirable space.
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    OK, you have you opinion and I have mine. But IMO you typed a lot and said almost nothing. Future Alfa E-SUV will take on future BMW X5 or Porsche Cayenne or maybe even RR Sport. These cars are shorter than 4.90 meters. Take in mind that Giorgio is a very space efficient for a RWD platform unlike one which is used for Levante. Even a Giulia is by American standards mid-size car. IMO, they can make a SUV long around 4.90 meters and it can have more spacious interior than any of direct competitors.
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    Yes and no. Even the wheelbase length is not 100% identical. Stelvio is already on wider version of Giorgio which I believe will be used for E-sedan/Alfetta in the future. Maybe even for E-SUV. So if you are comparing Stelvio to AWD Giulia than Stelvio is 53 mm wider at the front and 45 mm at the back. Stelvio has already track width at the level of new BMW Series 7. Exactly at what I pointed. And now here are official numbers for Stelvio. It's indeed very wide.
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    Maybe for a Tipo. Why not? But that also is not a performance version. But for 500X anything bellow new 2.0 turbo is not enough.
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    There are 1.3 and 2.0 engines around the corner. IMO, putting 1.4 or 1.75 inside does not make sense.
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    On the original plan all Alfa Romeo engines were planned with aluminium engine block. Current 3.0 V6 diesel is with CGI block designed for heavy duty and thus it's a overweight for a Alfa Romeo brand.
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    And estimated delivery time?
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    What's with 180 HP with Q4? Will it be available and which engine is it? Also isn't a difference between two diesels in intercooler? Air to Air vs Water to Air.
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    Cherokee KL and K8 3-row for China, Chrysler Pacifica. Unnamed Chrysler 3-row croosover which will in line-up directly replace Dodge Journey. Crossover Pacifica twin. That above are 5 models which will be available in late 2018 or early 2019. So CUSW has future.
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    But those conditions are not proscribed by EPA test. So for example in test max speed is for example 120 km/h, temperature levels are between 0-30 °C. It's very difficult to assume that someone will completely comply outside of those regulations. You are implying that FCA could not regularly pass the test. That's simple not truth. But on this forum I got the impression that Japanese car drivers are living in the parallel universe. Why?
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    That's all argue now between FCA and EPA. FCA is saying that they are protecting the engine. And anybody who had a diesel knows it's the true. And it seems that this engine does not pass "test" outside proscribed parameters by the EPA. FCA even offered new software for that engine. Why EPA did not approve it? IMO, EPA is informally against diesel for passenger cars. Ram 1500 is a passenger car for Americans. Keep in mind that 3.0 diesel has all necessary hardware to pass emissions test. But with Euro 6C norm in Europe we will have an identical shit with AECD.
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