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One interesting thing which went under the radar. In the EU they said that Stellantis will have 70% of BEV in sales mix in 2030. At the same tome they said that even before Fiat and Opel will be BEV only. Such plans were even before communicated for DS. The same will happen with Alfa Romeo according to internal plans. Basically this leads us to conclusion that all ICE/MHEV sales will go to just 2 brands. Citroen and Peugeot. Nice play from French I must say. They secured Citroen and Peugeot as (by far) the best selling Stellantis' brands in Europe.
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I'm concerned about 2 things. How much aluminium will they use and where? And the 2nd is luggage space. As we know luggage space is the biggest drawback of Small Wide 4x4 cars. It's a consequence of using rear MacPherson suspension. Multilink, even a simple one, would be a better choice.
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Kid is planned as the last Alfa Romeo model with ICE but also the first with BEV. Model after the Kid will be the first BEV only. CMP isn't good for A segment. Even for B, classic B, it's rather small ok the inside. And sometimes you should read between the lines. STLA Small base electric motor has power as the one on the new Fiat 500. So it seems that STLA Small is eMini's fork.
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Not even GSE or GME. 😂 One interesting thing. 3 out of 4 STLA platforms look like heritage FCA platforms while only STLA Medium is from PSA side. You know, the one which is perfect for DS-ied Alfa e-Romeo. Ah. If I haven't been clear. Under FCA green lit were Stelvio, Giulia, Tonale and Kid. Under PSA you will have Stelvio, Giulia, Giulietta (internally known as Alfetta), Tonale and Kid. And that's it from models which can make numbers. No E-segment cars. Big change. Isn't it?
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@pennellotref Mate Rimac agrees with you. Well, at least partially. In the future most people will not own a car. They will rent it or share it. Or as you say they will use foot. Who not see it is foolish. BTW. What I like about Mate Rimac is his sincereness when he speaks about BEV cars. P.S. He drives Ferrari privately.
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It's not so easy. You must think about charging spots, charging speed and battery life. And we forget one thing. In the future they will start to charge for car charging and it will not be cheap. What then? Already VAG on their chargers in America has very high price of charging. I forgot it. Mate Rimac said on Croatian TV that in the near future most of the people will not own a car.On the production side that's true and if you ask crazy Green parties. People let's go to elections and punish all parties with green policies about cars. But on the usability side you can use your PHEV in EV mode for commute and on a long journey you can use it as an ICE car with very quick and easy refill which is something which is not so easy with BEVs not to mention that fast chargers mean shorter battery life cycle.Tonale II is planned for Melfi. STLA Medium is no more evolved than STLA Large if we speak about BEV models. Both platforms are multienergy. So Alfa Romeo as BEV only is pure marketing choice. My opinion is that American management do not like Alfa Romeo and they got blessing for French which just have applied plan DS on Alfa Romeo. So basically we are getting Italian DS in terms of mechanical base.Do you know what is Alfa Romeo Alfetta for monsieur Imparato? It's Alfa C-segment, i.e. next generation Giulietta. Some here already said that Duetto could be a C-segment specialty based on STLA Medium. I didn't say it. For sure what I know that there is no Alfa E-segment models in the plan. And plan goes all the way to the end of 2030. And range is limited. 5 models + specialty. Already FCA green lit 4 models in total. So PSA basically gives only one additional model which is C-segment/Giulietta.PSA EMP2 v4 also known as PSA eVMP and it seems also known as STLA Medium STLA Large is, as it now seems, Giorgio fork as was developed by American engineers for Dodge. It was designed as multi-energy architecture from get go. I know internal name but I will not say it here. The smallest cars on it will be roughly the same size as Stelvio. 4.70m x 1.90m is the smallest. It seems that most of the North American line up will be on STLA Large, even some pick-ups.Not important if suspension scheme and some design ethos are connected with a platform. Look at suspension on Giorgio and compare it to EMP2 like for example 508. Look at the sideline on Giulia and compare it to 508. One has shirt snout and backward cabinet while the other has long snout and cabforward look. Which is more sexy from the side? The entirely different speech would be dedicated BEV platform but they aren't doing it. They are doing multienergy platforms which should be as cheap as possible not just in production but also for factory modernization costs.
