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CRF still used the X1/23 in 1979 and 1980!
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Probably it was made in this way because it's cute, it makes you smile and curious and you feel that the car is friendly. All the components that any modern vehicle is missing. They explored a new niche, that was non existent back then. The car was made intentionally as a city commuter. They tried to make a cheap electric car for everyday. The concept that can be easily achieved with the modern technology, but nobody want's it
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Just for comparison, 155, which is generally considered a flop, during the first month on the market (February 1992) collected 6000 orders in Italy only. Production was running at 400 cars/day. During the second month (March) 155 collected 7000 orders on the domestic market. In April Alfa delivered 10000 cars but already had a backlog of 11000 cars! At the end of May 1992 Alfa 155 got 15000 registers in Italy Does Junior produced with a pace of 400-450 cars per day? If not, I would question the number of orders P.S. Alfa 33 at that time was produced at the pace 420 cars per day
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I just can't understand how a person without previous automotive experience could decide anything regarding the model range.
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Talking about 33 3 volume we should understand how it supposed to be positioned and when. By the last independent 10 years model plan (June 1985) AR marketing team thought about 33 3v as Giulietta replacement. They wanted to add a model between 33 and 75. 33 3v was planned for the first quarter of 1988 however in the beginning of 1992 33 3v and 75 supposed to be replaced by the new 434 model
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Yes, but before Alfa thought about this car, Alfasud Tempo Libero with Oto Melara transmission. Now the car is in the Lopresto collection
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The project started in 1980 during the preparation of the 10 years Master Plan. Alfa Romeo reviewed Giugiaro's market review from the 70's where he pointed that people are no longer interested in sports cars but in the cars that allow to explore. Basically future SUV's. Alfa Romeo reviewed Talbot Rancho, Citroen Mehari, Land Rover 90/110, Range Rover, VW Iltis, Mercedes-Steyer G 240-280. This is what AR presented to IRI, in 1980. It was planned for production in 1986
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The progress in turbocharging allowed to have 2-3 engines across the model range. Basically 3, 4 and 6 cylinders with the displacement from 1 to 3.5 liters can cover all model line. 3 engines allow to have a range from 85 to 700 hp. With naturally aspirated engines it would require 3, 4, 6, 8, 12 and probably 16/18 cylinders engines with displacement from 1 to 8.2-9 liters Alfa did the same experiment with 33.3 V8. but Triflux was much more efficient.
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My GTI was made in Mexico and Alfa Spider was made in Grugliasco. Dodge Dart was made in the USA from Italian parts, and Alfa 155 was made in Italy My father's Mazda's were made in Japan, my sister's and brother in law cars were made in Germany and USA. But yes, my laptop was made in China, back in 2014, when I did not care about the origins of the products. To be honest Chinese high tech products are almost disappeared from Canadian and USA markets. During the first Trump cadence many companies supported the closing of the factories in China, and Biden continued the trend. I think Iphone's are sold here are made in India. The purchase is always the choice of the customer. Chinese products do not have any pricing advantages over the products made in India, Indonesia, Taiwan, etc. And in Costco (large retail chain) there is always a selection of everyday products made in North America, from jeans to pullovers. And local clothing almost always made from natural materials (cotton or merino wool), but chinese products are made literally (it written on the packaging) from plastic garbage collected from oceans. I prefer a light merino t-shirt (12 Euro) over products made from garbage sourced from ocean (7 Euro)
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I personally always check where the product was made, and try to avoid anything made in China. Half of my clothing was made locally in Canada. Just don't buy their products, always check where it was made.
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https://www.antoniosassidesign.it/portfolio/design-story-alfa-romeo-164-concept/
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The final design of 923 AF or 156 Powerwagon was ready in January of 1998. So probably the proposal was done few months before, exactly as Paolo mentioned The I.De.A proposal was created by Antonio Sassi (at least he presented it at his personal web site) https://www.antoniosassidesign.it/portfolio/progetto-alfa-romeo-156-sport-wagon/
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Regarding the 4 door prototype. I think the answer is simple, it probably was a future 456 GT research vehicle. They could follow 4 door project at the first stages of development but eventually chose the 2+2 with V12. Based on the information at Stola website, in December 1989 at the model shop in Via La Thuile, STOLA spa created a Mathematical Verification master of the Ferrari 456 GT for Pininfarina. So we need to think backwards in time, probably the 4 doors version was abandoned in a favor of 2+2 at the beginning of 1989.
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Not true. It was Guglielmo Cartia who designed the last series Spider
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De Silva's father was an Art Director of FIAT. When FIAT created I.De.A he asked to hire his son. The new organization was managed by Mantegazza, the Head of the board was Piano and Rice was a VP. Hruska came back from retirement and became a Senior Advisor. I think de Silva was responsible for the design of the VSS, probably the one of the most important car in the whole history of the car manufacturing. The "platform" was created, all manufacturing processes were changed. The whole idea of the car manufacturing process has been reinvented. After that he was working under Spada. Before Alfa Romeo was "purchased" by FIAT, he was hired (October 31) as a manager of Alfa Romeo Centro Stile. He was literally the last manager hired by Alfa Romeo. Immediately, even before acquisition, he started to work on the 155 (I think back then it was the 433/434) project. On December 31, FIAT officially purchased Alfa. All assets were transferred and De Silva became a coordinator of 155. Magically the design of 155 was already done and did not require any changes He was working with Mario Maioli (FIAT), Franco Mantegazza, Ercole Spada (I.De.A). Centro Stile was responsible for the interior of 155. I think De Silva was a great manager but a mediocre designer But there is another beautiful car designed by him and assisted by Egger - Nuvola P.S. Proteo was designed by Bertelli and team 166 by Egger and team 156 by Maurer, Egger, Rosti, and Ferreri
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If I remember correctly CRF made a touch screen for Thema in the late 80s. Then it became a part of the Prometheus project sponsored by EU. I think the pinnacle of the project was Thema with lidars capable for the autonomous driving. Eventually the researches even done fully autonomous drive during 1993 1000 Miglia race
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Instead of calling her 33 they would better use a new name. People would look at the car with different thoughts and not compared it with the most beautiful car in the world. The name like Alfa Romeo 113 Speciale (113 years of the company similar idea to Alfa 75) or Alfa Romeo Brilli Peri (after first World Champion) would make more sense. And by the way she's not a masterpiece. Her design is not creative. Or let say her design doesn't rise my heartbeat. I rephrase a fake quote of Henry Ford. Every time I see a new Alfa Romeo 33 pass by, I do not lift my hat.
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Most of the Chinese engines are designed by AVL Austria. I think these engines are as well
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Tavares is a circus manager full of clowns like Imparato. He is a clown as well, but a bigger caliber. We just need to watch their bad performance and laugh. Enjoy the show guys.
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This is rare car even in North America, I've seen it only once since I came to Canada in 2013
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