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  1. Bare
    They planned to abandon F1 at the end of next year but now who knows. Pushing BEV only product plan while staying in F1 doesn't make sense. Not to mention pushing BEV Quadrifoglio models and staying in F1. Tonale Quadrifoglio? IMO they can make if they want it. But do they want it?
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    Sales start EU 6/'22 US 10/'22
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    I must praise PSA guys for the marketing part. That's something I was expecting.
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    France, Germany push back against EU banning combustion cars by 2035 Battle looms over climate targets and how they will affect the auto industry https://europe.autonews.com/environmentemissions/france-germany-push-back-against-eu-banning-combustion-cars-2035
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    Yes, it could be. Both Q3 and Tiguan are on MQB A2. Usually different NVH and also ride quality/handling goals.
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    Someone told me that Hornet was used as base for this sketch.
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    😴
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    One tidbit from the "inside". Tonale-Hornet duo are internally part of D-segment vehicles and not B-C like trio Compass, 500X and Renegade. Different design goals.
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    @dbing They said it's a classified technology. I was thinking about some kind of REEV.
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    One interesting thing which went under the radar. In the EU they said that Stellantis will have 70% of BEV in sales mix in 2030. At the same tome they said that even before Fiat and Opel will be BEV only. Such plans were even before communicated for DS. The same will happen with Alfa Romeo according to internal plans. Basically this leads us to conclusion that all ICE/MHEV sales will go to just 2 brands. Citroen and Peugeot. Nice play from French I must say. They secured Citroen and Peugeot as (by far) the best selling Stellantis' brands in Europe.
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    Guys, Tonale will be a very nice car. Maybe it could be better but I'm sure that it will be excellent for driving even in base versions if we compare it to direct competitors.
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    I'm concerned about 2 things. How much aluminium will they use and where? And the 2nd is luggage space. As we know luggage space is the biggest drawback of Small Wide 4x4 cars. It's a consequence of using rear MacPherson suspension. Multilink, even a simple one, would be a better choice.
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    Chief Engineering Officer is in Torino. I'm talking about Harald Wester. Even Chief of Design for Europe, Ploue, has relocated from Paris to Torino. Yes, a lot of managerial positions are taken by French or Americans but a lot of development will be done in Italy.
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    I must say that the Tonale MHEV will have a class leading CO2 emissions in comparison to what you can buy today from competitors with a 1.5 turbo engines.
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    At 5°C or -5°C? At -5°C it has 40% drop. That's for sure. Of course if cabin heating is on.
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    Kid is planned as the last Alfa Romeo model with ICE but also the first with BEV. Model after the Kid will be the first BEV only. CMP isn't good for A segment. Even for B, classic B, it's rather small ok the inside. And sometimes you should read between the lines. STLA Small base electric motor has power as the one on the new Fiat 500. So it seems that STLA Small is eMini's fork.
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    Late this year Chrysler should have China bound BEV model based on GAC A12.
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    Not even GSE or GME. 😂 One interesting thing. 3 out of 4 STLA platforms look like heritage FCA platforms while only STLA Medium is from PSA side. You know, the one which is perfect for DS-ied Alfa e-Romeo. Ah. If I haven't been clear. Under FCA green lit were Stelvio, Giulia, Tonale and Kid. Under PSA you will have Stelvio, Giulia, Giulietta (internally known as Alfetta), Tonale and Kid. And that's it from models which can make numbers. No E-segment cars. Big change. Isn't it?
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    @pennellotref Mate Rimac agrees with you. Well, at least partially. In the future most people will not own a car. They will rent it or share it. Or as you say they will use foot. Who not see it is foolish. BTW. What I like about Mate Rimac is his sincereness when he speaks about BEV cars. P.S. He drives Ferrari privately.
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    It's not so easy. You must think about charging spots, charging speed and battery life. And we forget one thing. In the future they will start to charge for car charging and it will not be cheap. What then? Already VAG on their chargers in America has very high price of charging. I forgot it. Mate Rimac said on Croatian TV that in the near future most of the people will not own a car.
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    On the production side that's true and if you ask crazy Green parties. People let's go to elections and punish all parties with green policies about cars. But on the usability side you can use your PHEV in EV mode for commute and on a long journey you can use it as an ICE car with very quick and easy refill which is something which is not so easy with BEVs not to mention that fast chargers mean shorter battery life cycle.
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    Tonale II is planned for Melfi. STLA Medium is no more evolved than STLA Large if we speak about BEV models. Both platforms are multienergy. So Alfa Romeo as BEV only is pure marketing choice. My opinion is that American management do not like Alfa Romeo and they got blessing for French which just have applied plan DS on Alfa Romeo. So basically we are getting Italian DS in terms of mechanical base.
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    Do you know what is Alfa Romeo Alfetta for monsieur Imparato? It's Alfa C-segment, i.e. next generation Giulietta. Some here already said that Duetto could be a C-segment specialty based on STLA Medium. I didn't say it. For sure what I know that there is no Alfa E-segment models in the plan. And plan goes all the way to the end of 2030. And range is limited. 5 models + specialty. Already FCA green lit 4 models in total. So PSA basically gives only one additional model which is C-segment/Giulietta.
  25. Bare
    PSA EMP2 v4 also known as PSA eVMP and it seems also known as STLA Medium STLA Large is, as it now seems, Giorgio fork as was developed by American engineers for Dodge. It was designed as multi-energy architecture from get go. I know internal name but I will not say it here. The smallest cars on it will be roughly the same size as Stelvio. 4.70m x 1.90m is the smallest. It seems that most of the North American line up will be on STLA Large, even some pick-ups.
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