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  1. Fiat 600e & 600 M.Y. 2026

    Bare ha risposto a __P in Fiat
    Color range is disgusting.

  2. Fiat 600e & 600 M.Y. 2026

    Bare ha risposto a __P in Fiat
    I must once again said that Stellantis did a lazy job with so called CMP 2. Anyway, what does '2' in the name means? They did not redo platform for FCA infotainment system. They did not made it suitable for FCA engines. I know that PSA want it cheap and sources in house. But was it so hard to make this car suitable for 1.5 MHEV engine? Engine which is ready au contraire to 1.2 MHEV solution from PSA which also has dubious choice of transmission. It's not double clutch even if they call it that way. And one simple thing. They did all of this products with shortest available wheelbase length. Why?

  3. Fiat 600e & 600 M.Y. 2026

    Bare ha risposto a __P in Fiat
    Also Avenger has dad lesser measured cargo space than 500X. It's the worst in the class. CMP has many drawbacks, many tehcnical drawbacks. The only advantage is price.

  4. Fiat 600e & 600 M.Y. 2026

    Bare ha risposto a __P in Fiat
    I'm wondering if anything on PSA mechanics can replace FCA products. 😂 I mean, so poorly engineered, cost cuts at every step and so on. BTW. There is none 4 cylinder GSE on CMP based products, not even in Brazil. It just doesn't fit. I presume it's due to position of ancillaries.

  5. Fiat 600e & 600 M.Y. 2026

    Bare ha risposto a __P in Fiat
    What does? Big nothing!?

  6. I prossimi modelli Jeep

    Bare ha risposto a Beckervdo in Scoops and Rumors
    Airflow was back at the drawing board due to regulation changes related to subsidize for BEV cars and SUVs. It's related to a ground clearance. Original Airflow has low ground clearance and thus was legally a car and not an SUV.

  7. I prossimi modelli Chrysler / Dodge / RAM

    Bare ha risposto a Beckervdo in Scoops and Rumors
    Most likely Wrangler will keep its unique platform/frame

  8. I prossimi modelli Jeep

    Bare ha risposto a Beckervdo in Scoops and Rumors
    @__P Wrangler on STLA Frame? Are you sure?

  9. I prossimi modelli Alfa Romeo

    Bare ha risposto a Beckervdo in Scoops and Rumors
    Looking at how is all going with BEV demand and having a multienergy platform with STLA Large ex PSA management would be mad if they're going to offer BEV only models in the future. But to me ex PSA leadership so far look stingy and devoid of reality.

  10. Alfa Romeo Stelvio II 2028 - Prj. 951/A5U (Notizie)

    Bare ha risposto a __P in Scoops and Rumors
    That's not stellantis' nomenclature. It's 100% PSA.

  11. Fiat 600e & 600 M.Y. 2026

    Bare ha risposto a __P in Fiat
    https://it.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barra_Panhard

  12. Scelte strategiche gruppo Stellantis NV

    Bare ha risposto a 4200blu in Notizie e Scelte Strategiche dal mondo dell'Auto
    For me here is the prime example of a clear push of expensive French products. France is first!

  13. Fiat 600e 2023 - Prj. 364 (Anteprima)

    Bare ha risposto a GFab in Scoops and Rumors
    They did a lazy job with ex-FCA'a CMP based triplets. They even didn't bother to implement FireFly engines and UConnect to it. They even have no shame calling 1.2 PuteDreck a GSE and an infotainment a UConnect.

  14. Fiat 600e 2023 - Prj. 364 (Anteprima)

    Bare ha risposto a GFab in Scoops and Rumors
    I could agree that 600 is replacement for a 500X in a case that it's using long wheelbase version of CMP. One problem, and for me it's a major problem or issue. Using VW T-Cross as a benchmark is just wrong. IMO benchmark should have been Captur and 2008 which are both sitting ona (significantly) longer wheelbase than their hatchback siblings.

  15. Fiat 600e 2023 - Prj. 364 (Anteprima)

    Bare ha risposto a GFab in Scoops and Rumors
    For me 500X is a better designed car, both inside-out. About some technical solutions and engine choices...

  16. Alfa Romeo Tonale M.Y. 2025

    Bare ha risposto a __P in Alfa Romeo
    Good luck if it's PHEV... God save us!

  17. Jeep Avenger MY 2025

    Bare ha risposto a ykdg1984 in Jeep
    In general I'm surprised by 2 technical choices. They only show how cheap are French/PSA. The first is omission of the brand new GSE/FireFly engine family. The second is lack of UConnect infotainment system which is arguably better than PSA's system. For me there is no logical explanation behind this except that French are cheap and stingy. Ah... And that old and problematic 1.2 PureDreck with 100 HP. Ouch!

  18. Jeep Avenger MY 2025

    Bare ha risposto a ykdg1984 in Jeep
    So basically we have... French engines, both petrol and electric French-Chinese platform French-Chinese hybrid transmission French infotainment system (bey bye UConnect) What's Italian or FCA's on this car?

  19. Jeep Compass MY24

    Bare ha risposto a __P in Jeep
    This transmission is called 8F30.

  20. Fiat 600e 2023 - Prj. 364 (Anteprima)

    Bare ha risposto a GFab in Scoops and Rumors
    Uno? LOL Anyway. I'm deeply disappointed with all of these French cars. CMP is a compromised platform both in terms of passive safety and packaging. Rear seat space/legroom is very small. CMP cars are big on the outside but small on the inside. I think that they are the worst in a B segment for this particular category. On top of that we will get unreliable French 1.2 engine.

  21. Scelte strategiche gruppo Stellantis NV

    Bare ha risposto a 4200blu in Notizie e Scelte Strategiche dal mondo dell'Auto
    You don't know what are you talking about. GSE is dead. 1.2 PureDreck is 100% PSA project.

  22. Il futuro dei siti produttivi Stellantis

    Bare ha risposto a The Summarizer in Notizie e Scelte Strategiche dal mondo dell'Auto
    The end of Italian engines is near. Very sad news.

  23. Alfa Romeo Stelvio - Giulia MCA Quadrifoglio MY2023 (Spy)

    Bare ha risposto a __P in Scoops and Rumors
    Actually the original plan was Nettuno for Alfa Romeo and of course as P2 MHEV (ZF).

  24. Scelte strategiche gruppo Stellantis NV

    Bare ha risposto a 4200blu in Notizie e Scelte Strategiche dal mondo dell'Auto
    DS as reference? 🤦‍♂️

  25. STELLANTIS - 1.2 EB2 Gen3 (AT6 Hybrid e MT6 con catena di distribuzione)

    Bare ha risposto a j in Innovazione Meccanica
    This is 100% PSA project.
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