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- dodge ufficiale
- neon 2017
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Less weight, less length, smaller luggage, smaller wheelbase? Meno peso, meno di lunghezza, bagaglio più piccolo, più piccolo passo? -
Batteries for next Town&Country? Batterie per la prossima Town & Country? http://www.fev.com/en/press/always-informed/news-article/article/fev-battery-for-plug-in-hybrid-vehicle-goes-into-series-production.html
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Octavia + 75 kg conducente = 1380 kg
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AWD test?
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Does anybody know dimensions of front overhang for Fiat Tipo? Vehicles based on FGA Small Platform has front overhang less than 88 cm long. Front overhang on Fiat Bravo is 97 cm long. I believe that Tipo Hatch will be around 4.25 m long. Google translate: Qualcuno sa dimensioni di sbalzo anteriore per Fiat Tipo? Veicoli basati su Pianale FGA Small ha sbalzo anteriore lungo meno di 88 centimetri. Sbalzo anteriore su Fiat Bravo è lunga 97 cm. Credo che Tipo 2v sarà di circa 4,25 m di lunghezza.
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2014-2018 plan, official presentation (December 2015): http://www.fcagroup.com/en-US/investor_relations/events_presentations/other_presentations/2015/FCA_NV_Dec2015_Presentation.pdf Google translate: 2014-2018 piano, presentazione ufficiale (dicembre 2015): http://www.fcagroup.com/en-US/investor_relations/events_presentations/other_presentations/2015/FCA_NV_Dec2015_Presentation.pdf
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US specifications: https://www.alfaromeousa.com/content/dam/alfausa/pdf/techsheet/usa/giulia/2017_AR_Giulia_SP.pdf Official EPA vehicle class is a midsize. All other direct competitors are compacts. Google translate: Specifiche degli Stati Uniti: https://www.alfaromeousa.com/content/dam/alfausa/pdf/techsheet/usa/giulia/2017_AR_Giulia_SP.pdf Ufficiale classe del veicolo EPA è una di medie dimensioni. Tutti gli altri concorrenti diretti sono compatti.
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Actually, if I want someone to succeed Maglione from American side that's a pro-bodybuilder Bigland.
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No, MA just on intake valves. AFAIK that's enough for EGR with MA.
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I see that you are avoiding to answer to my questions and statements. I don't know if it's about you technical ignorance or ignorance because of English language. If latter is truth than I ask someone to translate my post. You can't compare CLA to Giulia. One is based on hot hatch and has transverse engine where they can't put V6 while other is in segment above and is RWD. But Mustang has much less power than Mercedes and has 0.3 liters more capacity. Actually that 2.3 liter Mustang has slightly less HP/liter than 2.0 Giulia with 280 HP. If you look at premium D-segment than all of them offer 3.0 liter V6 or I6 engine for more than 300 HP. Only exception is Volvo for S60 where they offer 305 HP (same engine exists as 320 HP for even bigger car) but with supercharger for low revs. Now I will compare power and torque curve of 2.0 Volvo Twincharger, 2.0 Mercedes with single twin-scroll turbo and 3.0 Maserati with bi-turbo. As you can see Mercedes engine is not even close at low rpm to Volvo not to mention Maserati. At 1500 rpm Volvo has 75 HP with 350 Nm, Mercedes has 55 HP with 250 NM while Maserati has 90 or 95 HP with almost 450 Nm. For marque like Alfa that power and torque curve at low rpm like in CLA45 is not acceptable. But as I show it's possible to achieve decent power and torque at low rpm from 2.0 engine but not with single turbocharger. Thus I believe that 2.0 with 350 HP for Giulia will use electric or mechanical supercharger for low rpm.
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I doubt about Tremec. It will be ZF but I believe we'll see a Getrag, at least for DCT. Single turbo for 2.0 with 350 HP? I know just one 2.0 gasoline engine with twin-scroll turbo and 350 HP and it's torque at low rpm is disastrous: Someone can accept such a behavoiur of engine on hot hatch but not on premium D segment like Giulia. I also don't believe that FCA's engineers are magicians. 325d has old N47 engine with 218 HP but new B47 with 231 HP is ready and they already offer it in some cars. Audi is proclaiming ~200 kg for its 3.0 TDI. It's impossible that 2.2 JTDm has 100 kg less because it will mean it has around 100 kg. Also Mercedes is going to substitute OM651 with OM654 somewhere in next year.
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Excellent point but I will add some technical info. I do not know but I believe that Alfa will use same manual transmission suplier(s) as BMW so in that respect it's impossible to see manual with engine which has more than 450 Nm of torque. But all depends on price, at same price point I'll always choose modern automatic.
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It's easy to get how they achieved such a attractive price for Tipo. They choose an unorthodox approach for European car manufacturer. You have three trim levels with no options with each of them, so no individualization. With that they shaved logistical costs. Other important choice is use of naturally aspirated gasoline engines. Much cheaper to build than turbo units and excellent choice for car's price-point for markets without CO2 based taxes.
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I think there are three possible choices but only 2 out of 3 completely eliminates turbo lag effect: Twin staged turbocharger Twincharger (turbo + supercharger) which VAG abandoned while Volvo recently presented 2.0 320 HP engine with this technology Electric turbo for low rpm + turbocharger, this is choice for the future and will be ideal choice for Alfa fro marketing standpoint for a brand which pushes many advanced technologies
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We already know that FCA has a contract with ZF for 2nd generation of ZF 8HP. Exclusive period between BMW and ZF has expired. ZF 8HP50 will be produced by FCA USA (with some changes to original design) and called 850RE while ZF 8HP75 will be bought directly from ZF. Whe we can expect that version and how they achieved 350 HP without noticeable turbo lag? I see a 30HP difference between 2.2 JTD versions a little be odd. I expected more power from top version.
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From: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=945453968862596&set=o.378466312218353&type=3
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Ciferri's articles are excellent when you need to go to a toilet.
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And still it doesn't have much with 0-100 km/h time where weight is more important.
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I made some comparison between Bravo and Tipo with similar motorization. Bravo 1.4 16v 90 HP - 12.5 s - 179 km/h Tipo 1.4 16v 95 HP - 11.5 - 185 km/h Bravo 1.6 JTD 90 HP - 13.1 s - 173 km/h Bravo 1.6 JTD 105 HP - 11.3 s - 187 km/h Tipo 1.3 JTD 95 HP - 11.7 s - 183 km/h Bravo 1.6 JTD 120 HP - 10.5 s - 195 km/h Tipo 1.6 JTD 120 HP - 9.7 s - 199 km/h For me this is a great success that a car that is 20 cm long and must comply with newer ecological norms has better performance. Process of weight loss was successful.