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Avenger, not Renegade. The Renegade successor / Baby Wrangler will be launched in 2026 and it will be only-BEV. The Recon and the Wagoneer S will be available in Europe only as BEVs. The New Compass though will be available also as hybrid The Cherokee, Recon and Wagoneer S will definitely be based on the Large

Is there any chance that the 499P Stradale will be unveiled this year? Perhaps at the Finali Mondiali in October?

I know from FChat that the F169S will be revealed on March, and the F167 on September. My guess for the SF90VS is that it'll be revealed on May, judging from the previous Ferrari patterns

Yeah, I know. My point was that 1. All the 6C's will be sold immediately, no matter the price 2. I can't name the Alfa Romeo outrageous for doing what everyone (Ferrari, Mercedes, etc) has been doing for so many years: take a car, change the design a bit, build only a few of them, and put a price tag that is 5 times bigger

Can't understand why we are talking that much about the price. There'll be only 32 units. Regardless the price, all of them will be sold in a ms. There is much more than 32 mad billionaires in the world Plus, calm down. Yes, the price will be outrageous for a redesigned MC20. But Alfa Romeo is far from being the first brand to use the following bait: I'm asking you to pay 1M€ for a redesigned 200K€ car, just because it's super-limited. And don't be silly, obviously Alfa Romeo will know in advance (via VIP shows) how much demand is for that car, and will price it accordingly

Judging from the teaser, it should be named "6C". And so, it should be available only with the V6 engine

The Alfa Romeo E-seg model will be designed for the needs of the US clients, but it will not be built in US, according to JPI

The interior will be revealed in February/March. First deliveries in Q2

The Tonale Q will definitely be PHEV secondo me. I don't expect a presentation this year, I think Alfa has already much in its plate for 2023 (6C, New Stelvio Concept, Junior)

By "it will definitely hurt the 296", I meant it will definitely hurt the image of its 296, not its sales. Ferrari ain't silly, they won't release the extreme V6 before the 296 book's closed. As for the Speciale, it won't be affected, cause it'll be limited

Me too. Plus it will definitely hurt the 296, a lot. The 296 was presented as a compact sports car and the definition of fun-to-drive. And now you launch a new model that is even more compact and fun-to-drive? What's the point? Did anyone ask for this car? If anyone considers the 296 as a not enough fun-to-drive car, he's out of his mind

The 920 will definitely not cost 2M€. Perhaps not even 1.5M€. But, anyway, it will be very expensive. Which is not crazy, cause we're talking about a very limited car, and with a totally new design. I don't expect mechanical changes but, for God's sake, Ferrari was asking you to pay 1.4M€ for 1 of 499 roofless 812s Yes, it will have some elements. Though the concept will be more characteristic. It will basically be the New Stelvio concept

Probably in H2 2024. Ferrari is designing a new version of the 3L V6 engine, which will produce between 740 and 750cv. It could have a slightly bigger displacement. We'll definitely see it in the F250 (first application) and then in this one. Perhaps also in the 499P Stradale

Don't know if it counts as evidence, but a greek journalist, who was among the ones invited in Balocco last month to drive the PHEV Tonale, writes that when he asked the Alfa Romeo people if a Tonale Q is about to come, they smiled and refused to answer. Also he writes that he spotted a fully-camo Tonale mule in the roads close to Balocco. Does anyone know sth more?

https://www.carwow.co.uk/news/6539/electric-ferrari-supercar-patents-exclusive-renders-price-specs-release-date#gref Ferrari confirms plans for first electric car Electric supercar set to arrive before 2026 Could come with four electric motors More than 1,000hp possible Could be the most powerful Ferrari ever If you thought the idea of Ferrari building an SUV was wild, wait until you see what else the Italian brand is cooking up… Yes, V12-loving Ferrari is planning to build its first fully electric car and put it on sale as early as 2025. The plans were confirmed by CEO, Benedetto Vigna, who expects pure electric cars to account for around 5% of the brand’s global sales in 2026. These exclusive renderings (shown throughout) imagine what this new car could look like, taking inspiration from contemporary Ferraris, classic supercars and the firm’s brand-new 499P Le Mans hypercar. Official details are few and far between, but patent filings (shown below) suggest the new electric car could take the form of a two-door supercar rather than a large four-door coupe like the electric Porsche Taycan. This image shows a large battery pack mounted behind the driver and under a pair of front seats. This layout is similar to the one Porsche is considering using for the electric successor to the 718 Cayman and Boxster. Anyway, back to Ferrari because its first electric car could be significantly more powerful and faster than anything Porsche has up its sleeve… Another patent image (below) shows a bird’s-eye view of an electric car featuring four electric motors. This layout uses one motor for each wheel in a similar manner to the record-breaking Rimac Nevera hypercar. Porsche’s forthcoming sports car is expected to have no more than two motors. Ferrari has already dabbled in electric technologies. The SF90 uses three electric motors to give its twin-turbo V8 engine a 220hp boost. Not only that, but Ferrari has also revealed a Vision Gran Turismo concept car (below) specifically for driving-sim fans to race in the Gran Turismo 7 video game that shows what even more powerful future Ferraris could be like. Don’t expect this binary barnstormer’s impractical one-seat layout to appear in future Ferraris, but the beefed-up electrical system might. The Vision Gran Turismo comes with three motors producing 326hp. These work alongside a twin-turbo V6 engine to deliver a striking 1,356hp punch. But, there’s a chance Ferrari’s first electric car could borrow its electronic oomph from somewhere else… Possibly from the world of racing. Ferrari has just revealed the new 499P racing car. This hybrid sportscar will compete in the World Endurance Championship in 2023 and uses the same 3.0-litre twin-turbo V6 as the digital concept car, but it’s also packing a 280hp electric motor that helps drive the front wheels. This is the most powerful electric motor fitted to any current Ferrari (yes, that’s including cars that only exist as a string of code in a Gran Turismo video game). Could four of these motors producing more than 1,100hp find their way into a future electric Ferrari supercar? Whatever motors Ferrari’s first electric car uses, you can expect to see the finished car revealed sometime in 2025. How much will it cost? Well, Ferrari plans to continue making cars powered purely by internal combustion engines until 2030, possibly with the help of renewable synthetic fuels. These cars will inevitably be some of the most expensive and exclusive cars the brand has ever made – think more along the lines of the naturally aspirated SP3 Daytona than the hybrid SF90… The firm’s first electric car may be a statement model designed to outperform flagship electric cars from the likes of Porsche and Tesla, but one that doesn’t tread on the toes of the brand’s ultra-exclusive petrol-powered flagships. This means a new Ferrari EV might be priced more in line with the near-£400,000 SF90, and not in the same league as a multi-million-pound Rimac Nevera. That said, you’ll still have to jump through hoops just to get your name on the wait list – no matter how rich you are.

That's right. Expect it in late 2024

The official press kit says that it is a one-off, made for a German client, who owns several Alfa Romeo cars (a SZ and a 8C Competizione among them) and Aston Martin Zagato cars. The development of the car started last year. It is based on the GTAm (same engine and suspensions), but it has a manual gearbox

The whole nose looks very similar to the new one. Also, they have the same color. Seems like Zagato is closing the eye to Pininfarina

Christ, I hadn't seen the 2uettotanta for a while and it surprised me again. An eternal masterpiece

The length will be around 4,6m according to Luca

Both the scudetto itself and its positioning relatively to the lights remind me of the Duettotanta. Which btw is for me probably the most beautiful Alfa since the 2000 GT Veloce

What I understand is that there will be a next-gen Cherokee, but not for Europe. Available both in petrol and ev versions. The Wag S and the Recon will come to Europe in early 2025, but only as ev. In the US they could be available in petrol versions

It's something that has to do with the museo. I think everyone that wanted to, has submitted a story of his about Ferrari, which will somehow be "played" in the museo. If it had to do witha certain model, you will be able to hear it when seeing that exact model, I think

Well, I have no info. I just reinstated the last thing that was mentioned in this thread about this car's design; that it'll be supervised by Alfa, and Zagato will take care of the manufacture (like the SZ/RZ). So, thanks for sharing your info with us. Though, I don't know what was funny about my post https://www.autopareri.com/forums/topic/67285-alfa-romeo-giulia-swb-zagato-teaser/?do=findComment&comment=2468085

No, as far as I know it'll be based on Giulia. And designed by Alfa Romeo