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Can this really be the case? For Junior 136 + 29 makes 145. How can 160 + 20 make 175 then? With the same logic it should be more like 170 combustion plus 5 electric now. And is the official power reduction of the Plu-In from 280 to 270 maybe a mathematical change as well or real because of the latest emission standard like 70 to 65 for Panda/500? I like the updates, from photos/videos the Tonale looks better planted to the ground now, front appears shorter with the wider air inlet. Has anything changed at the rear, apart from the black/silver logo? I love the Giallo Ocra! 😎
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This recent article explains it a bit: https://de.motor1.com/reviews/773417/alfa-romeo-giulia-q4-2025-test/ If they can build the generations paralelly I wonder why they don't start with the new Giulia/Stelvio Elettrica and bring the Ibrida when ready. The old generation will sell close to zero as petrol only anyway. Makes only sense if the whole base has to be modified or the electric version isn't just good enough yet.
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Stellantis comunica la stima delle consegne consolidate per il terzo trimestre 2025 pari a 1,3 milioni di unità, +13% rispetto all’anno precedente AMSTERDAM, 10 Ottobre 2025 – Stellantis N.V. ha pubblicato oggi le proprie stime delle consegne consolidate. Il termine “consegne” identifica i volumi di veicoli consegnati alla rete, ai distributori o direttamente ai clienti finali e alle flotte, che determinano la rilevazione dei ricavi. Le consegne consolidate per i tre mesi conclusi il 30 settembre 2025 sono state stimate a 1,3 milioni di unità, con un aumento del 13% rispetto all’anno precedente. L’incremento è in larga misura attribuibile al Nord America, sostenuto anche dalla crescita delle consegne su base annua in Europa allargata e Medio Oriente e Africa. Stellantis comunica la stima delle consegne consolidate p...Nord America +35%, in crescita anche l’Europa allargata e il Medio Oriente e l’Africa Something positive for a change! 🙂
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Yeah, that's the article. But he doesn't indicate a specific source for anything. Apart from something like "Stellantis has 14 brands. Analysts think that's too much." Anyway, I can imagine some investor having interest in buying a luxury brand with "craft" production, but nothing with mass production, big factories and many workers. If Stellantis has "excess" brands, that would be Lancia and DS of course. Too bad the rumour speculating analysts don't know them. 😉
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Let's face it: This whole discussion doesn't make any sense. As if any Arab investor group had know-how for car production. They have money, but they don't want to burn it. If anything it's about exotic Maserati production only. What is this rumour based on? Is the rumour spreader/speculator trustworthy in stories like this? It's only a couple of days since the last "Alfa Romeo is not for sale" dementi by Stellantis to AMuS. It's way too easy to fill headlines with brain farts nowadays.
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That may be correct for base management. But the global cost for brand distribution, showrooms, advertising etc. gets multi-plicated for the brands. It looks like not enough importers and dealers outside the initial markets see return of investment in the Lancia relaunch. That's Citroën's identity since the beginning. 2CV on the one end, DS on the other. Which doesn't have to mean it still works today.
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Not bigger interest. But if "DS" becomes 1 or 2 top models for Citroën again, "Citroën DS x" like it originally was, they can cut all the expenses of a standalone brand with management, design, marketing, distribution … Maybe add a "DS line" for all Citroën models. Same should be done for Abarth. It was Fiat's tuning and racing division and in reality it has never been more than that. Not even one exclusive model. Kill the "standalone" brand, name the models "Fiat XY Abarth", add an "Abarth line" for cheaper models and you're fine. Those two core brands would even benefit from their "halo" sub-brands. Then Lancia … I don't know. It sold less cars than Ferrari in 2025 so far. I don't think it can survive in current state. If you want to relaunch a brand you need at least one real hit model and biiig money to get the word out. And the right market conditions. Like BMW's MINI relaunch in 2000–2002. Not this slow and quiet effort surrounded by dozens of Chinese newcomers. How many people (who might buy new cars) remember a glorious Lancia? Outside of Italy? When was the last time Lancia had success apart from low-budget sales? When in C or D segment? The other option for Lancia/DS would be a brand duo like Opel/Vauxhall with local badge swap. If the combined numbers would be enough and friends of the brands would get along with that.
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At least there's almost free wheel choice now. If we could trust page 6, the Icona seats are cloth/vinyl for Sprint now. And all standard armrests are listed as cloth and not vinyl anymore. I guess it's just errors. The Junior is Serie 1 now, according to the last page. But what did really change apart from trim packs?
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They have D segment and looong C with Alfa Giulia, Stelvio, DS 7, 8, Citroën C5 Aircross, Opel Grandland, Peugeot 5008, Lancia Gamma. But also normal C segment would benefit. How much power can we expect from a 1.2 FHEV? The Renault 1.8 HEV doesn't deliver much more than the STLA 1.2 MHEV.
