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If it offers more than a 25k Big Panda the Fiat prices have to adapt. Has to be seen though. Could be very bare bone. I hope STLA Small SP1 (208/Corsa) will offer 500 km WLTP. Do you think they'll also get entry-level ranges or is that left to Smart Car?
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Great marketing by VW as always. They are building up excitement for a product like the 2nd coming of Christ that doesn't really offer more than existing competitors. Maybe the engines are a bit more economical and the loading is a bit faster than the CMPs and R5. ID Polo has the same height as Alfa Junior by the way, just not labeled as a SUV. Strange that the GTI has only a tiny bit more power than the next version. The price of the longer range versions will be crucial. That's where Stellantis fails. I'm sure it will be a solid success because of big brand trust, marketing, network and fleet contracts.
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Seems to be a well researched article, while nothing shocking in there. While much needed mainstream models like the Smart Car family or Jeep Cherokee were started under Tavares already, the product outcome by Filosa will take time to shine. So true, the curse of small market share. And a reason why Alfa needs the B segment and unnecessary brand fragmentation should be corrected.
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Same for other (non STLA) European products. Chinese seem to benefit from current system. But from 2026 you will get negative points for screen-only cockpits. https://www.euroncap.com/en/press-media/press-releases/euro-ncap-announces-2026-protocol-changes-to-tackle-modern-driving-risks/
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So the rear logo stays after all. For me the Astra is Opel's best design on the street, maybe the best-looking current C hatchback on the market. Like other STLA cars it would benefit from a stronger (non-plugin) hybrid. 1.6 HEV – we're looking at you! And is there room for a bigger EV battery?
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I don't know if they really left A segment out but STLA Small was always planned to reach the C segment. Check the EV day presentation from 2021. Also, on the Italia plan from 2024 they list the 2030+ factory platforms and cars on it. For Pomigliano it's Small and new Pandina plus compacts but no word about Mini or City.
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Hmm, this looks like a London cab in B segment. Hope it's much better without the camouflage.
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I think at the low expected sales volumes it's wise to channel the equipment into fixed special series. You have the illusion of variety but can build all cars in the same configuration. After three months another configuration for all.
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But the 159 got sold off cheap after a few years. I remember offers for a well specced edition for 24.000 € at the Alfa website in Germany. It got an image of slow and heavy with the GM engines in the initial years and the 1.8 TBI came too late to fix that.
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Does Smart have a market in China? Sales are close to zero in Germany (former home) and I wonder why they continue to invest. Only chance of a brand comeback is a new 42.
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Keep in mind that those interest charges and scrapping conditions are more market specific than by brand/company. For example you get an Alfa for 2%, 1% or even 0% in Germany. https://www.alfaromeo.de/angebote
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Maybe it's whiskers now. 😼 After the single long fangs it turned to three claws already.
