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I disagree. It's simply too early to judge that. Mito startet in June 2008 and had a much faster ramp up with popular powertrains. In 2009 it sold extraordinary well in Germany thanks to the "Abwackprämie". Sales fell down after that. Mito prices started under 15k Euro while Junior prices start at 30k Euro. Like for Avenger and 600 the Junior ramp up has been rather slow since the Elettrica arrived at dealers 12 months ago. People report about orders taking up to six months. So the contrast between more than 55k orders (worldwide since launch) and less than 30k deliveries (in Europe, this year) should shrink. You can see at the 600 (launched 9–12 months before Junior) that the monthly sales are still climbing. Just found this extensive analysis about the Junior, might be interesting:
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Not a good idea, if true. It harms the brand image, because you can directly buy a cheaper Chinese brand then. Better alternative: Use know-how and components of Leapmotor if beneficial, but in proper European vehicles. And if there's a hole in the Opel SUV lineup, it's rather a compact crossover than another SUV in the tiny gap between Frontera (438 cm) and Grandland (465 cm).
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Giorgio BEV is possible, but laborious, expensive and simply not competitive. Just compare Grecale to new iX3, Macan or GLC. There is a reason Maserati killed the Giorgio projects for new Levante and Quattroporte. If you want, STLA Large is the proper BEV evolution of Giorgio. And Alfa/Maserati don't have the volumes to justify splitting their models on two different platforms for ICE/BEV versions.
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I wouldn't bet too much on PHEV. Recent studies show that they deliver only 19% emission reduction in real life – in contrast to theoretic 75%. Outside of WLTP the combustion engine is running much more than claimed, even if you always charge. So there are EU plans to base taxes more and more on real consumption over the next years. Article about it: n-tv.deSo dreckig sind Plug-in-Hybridfahrzeuge wirklichPlug-in-Hybride gelten als solide Kompromisslösung: Hersteller bewerben sie als saubere Alternative zum reinen Diesel- oder Benzinmotor und als Antwort auf begrenzte Batteriereichweiten. Eine Studie wImparato mentioned upcoming FHEV and REEV possibilies several times as Europe COO …
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As Tonale 160/175 and Junior 135/145 have more or less the same performance (because Tonale is 300 kg heavier, Junior 1.2 surprisingly faster than official numbers in different tests) — Tonale 130/145 would be Alfa's entry powertrain below Junior. Production wise it's not cheaper but adds expense. They should rather offer something between 175 MHEV and 270 PHEV. PHEV adds so much weight and complexity.
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Can this really be the case? For Junior 136 + 29 makes 145. How can 160 + 20 make 175 then? With the same logic it should be more like 170 combustion plus 5 electric now. And is the official power reduction of the Plu-In from 280 to 270 maybe a mathematical change as well or real because of the latest emission standard like 70 to 65 for Panda/500? I like the updates, from photos/videos the Tonale looks better planted to the ground now, front appears shorter with the wider air inlet. Has anything changed at the rear, apart from the black/silver logo? I love the Giallo Ocra! 😎
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This recent article explains it a bit: https://de.motor1.com/reviews/773417/alfa-romeo-giulia-q4-2025-test/ If they can build the generations paralelly I wonder why they don't start with the new Giulia/Stelvio Elettrica and bring the Ibrida when ready. The old generation will sell close to zero as petrol only anyway. Makes only sense if the whole base has to be modified or the electric version isn't just good enough yet.
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Stellantis comunica la stima delle consegne consolidate per il terzo trimestre 2025 pari a 1,3 milioni di unità, +13% rispetto all’anno precedente AMSTERDAM, 10 Ottobre 2025 – Stellantis N.V. ha pubblicato oggi le proprie stime delle consegne consolidate. Il termine “consegne” identifica i volumi di veicoli consegnati alla rete, ai distributori o direttamente ai clienti finali e alle flotte, che determinano la rilevazione dei ricavi. Le consegne consolidate per i tre mesi conclusi il 30 settembre 2025 sono state stimate a 1,3 milioni di unità, con un aumento del 13% rispetto all’anno precedente. L’incremento è in larga misura attribuibile al Nord America, sostenuto anche dalla crescita delle consegne su base annua in Europa allargata e Medio Oriente e Africa. Stellantis comunica la stima delle consegne consolidate p...Nord America +35%, in crescita anche l’Europa allargata e il Medio Oriente e l’Africa Something positive for a change! 🙂
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Yeah, that's the article. But he doesn't indicate a specific source for anything. Apart from something like "Stellantis has 14 brands. Analysts think that's too much." Anyway, I can imagine some investor having interest in buying a luxury brand with "craft" production, but nothing with mass production, big factories and many workers. If Stellantis has "excess" brands, that would be Lancia and DS of course. Too bad the rumour speculating analysts don't know them. 😉
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Let's face it: This whole discussion doesn't make any sense. As if any Arab investor group had know-how for car production. They have money, but they don't want to burn it. If anything it's about exotic Maserati production only. What is this rumour based on? Is the rumour spreader/speculator trustworthy in stories like this? It's only a couple of days since the last "Alfa Romeo is not for sale" dementi by Stellantis to AMuS. It's way too easy to fill headlines with brain farts nowadays.
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