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Con il nuova fabbrica a Messico e due altri nuovi stabilmenti in fase di pianificazione/realizzazione e chiaro, che una ripartizione futura dei modelli/stabilmento sara diverso come oggi. Fornitori come Magna, Nedcar e Valmet sono normalmente solo soluzioni a breve/medie termine per aumentare la capacita produttiva che con le linea interne non basta in quell momento. Ma d'altra parte, Nedcar non solo produce la R60 per BMW.

..piu o meno lo stesso livello di CV/l come la 458 speciale.

SOP Q4 2022 se tutto va come pianificato.

Secondo AM&S la ID4 Coupe si chiama ID5. Versione base con motore 150KW posteriore, versione TI poi con altro motore a 75Kw davanti. Batteria 82Kwh, molto probabile anche altri combinazioni batterie/motori

qualche settimane fa c'era unmessagio di un utente per i turni/giorni lavorativi a Cassino, dove lui ha scritto che hanno cancellato qulche giorni per Giulia/Stelvio e hanno prolungato la fase produttiva per Giulietta per qualche giorni/settimane - ma non trovo piu questo messagio.

Fixed 😉

Per motivare i proprietari delle modelli Phev per usare anche il modo elettrico: Drive electric, collect BMW Points, charge for free: BMW presents the worldwide first bonus programme for Plug-in Hybrid Model drivers. 15.10.2020 Press Release Munich. The BMW Group continues its consistent support for electromobility. With BMW Points, the worldwide first bonus programme for drivers of Plug-in Hybrid Models, the company creates additional incentives for increasing the share of electric driving in every-day traffic. Purely electric and thus locally emission-free driving is awarded with BMW Points. The driver is credited one point for every purely electrically-driven kilometre. Using the purely electric driving mode in areas defined as BMW eDrive zones is even awarded with double points. The collected points may then be converted into a credit that can be redeemed at BMW Charging public charging stations when charging the high voltage battery. In this way drivers of a BMW Plug-in Hybrid Model may actively contribute to the reduction of CO2-emissions while further reducing the operating costs of their vehicle. The new digital service is available in Germany, the Netherlands and Belgium. Other markets will follow in the course of 2020. "With the innovative bonus programme BMW Points we combine our technology competence in electromobility and digitisation in order to make sustained mobility even more attractive for the drivers of BMW Plug-in Hybrid Models", explains Pieter Nota, member of the BMW AG Management Board, responsible for Customer, Brands and Sales. More BMW Points, fewer emissions: Every kilometre counts. The digital service BMW Points rewards drivers of Plug-in Hybrid Models, which reduce fuel consumption, CO2-emission and noise emissions in urban traffic through purely electric driving, thus contributing to increased quality of life in urban environment. The innovative bonus programme raises drivers' motivation to charge the high-voltage battery on a regular basis to use the electric range of current BMW Plug-in Hybrid Models as intensive as possible for local emission-free mobility – in particular in the city, but also when commuting between home and work. BMW Points are being collected automatically during driving on an individual customer account that is integrated in the My BMW App. Thus the driver of a BMW Plug-in Hybrid Model may collect points in a very convenient way for every kilometre covered with a purely electric drive. Converting points into a credit balance is possible when a certain score has been reached. Thereby 1 250 BMW Points equal a credit of 10 euro. For 3 000 BMW Points 25 euro will be credited, for 5 800 BMW Points 50 euro. These bonus points may be used at public charging posts for charging the high-voltage battery via the digital service BMW Charging. First experiences: BMW Points generate significant added value. Only a few weeks after the start of BMW Points at the first European automobile markets it could already be seen, based on anonymised customer data, that customers succeed immediately in generating a significant ecological and emotional added value with the collection of points. The particularity thereby: BMW Points specifically rewards customers' sustained mobility behaviour since the bonus points in the form of a charging-credit enable them to drive emissionfree kilometres locally without additional costs. Thus customers and the environment profit equally from this innovative digital service. Regarding the further development of BMW Points new ways for collecting points as well as additional options for redeeming the collected points are being analysed. Creating incentives for sustainable mobility behaviour is thereby clearly in the focus. Manage BMW Points conveniently with the My BMW App. The services BMW Points and BMW eDrive zone may be used as standard in all current BMW Plug-in Hybrid Models that are equipped with the latest generation of display and operating systems, the BMW Operating System 7 as well as the BMW Live Cockpit Plus or Professional. This includes the Plug-in-Hybrid-Models of the series BMW 3 Series, BMW 5 Series* and BMW 7 Series, as well as the BMW X5 xDrive45e. Further models will follow continuously. Prerequisite for collecting BMW Points is a BMW ConnectedDrive Account. The customer can manage their current point level conveniently via the My BMW App on their smartphone. BMW Points, when charging the high voltage battery, are also redeemed via the My BMW App in combination with the digital charging service BMW Charging. The BMW Group steadily expands its selection of vehicles with electric drivetrains and consistently further develops the BMW eDrive technology as well as innovative digital services, where the BMW Group puts ideas for more sustainability on the roads. "All of us work together permanently on further developing driving pleasure and sustainability which is typical for our brand", says Pieter Nota. "Digitisation gives us here the opportunity to regard our customers' preferences even more and to make those our focal point." --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Unique combination: BMW Points and BMW eDrive zone. BMW Points follow up on the digital service BMW eDrive zone, which had been introduced in spring. With that service BMW took on a pioneering role promoting the electromobility in inner city road traffic. As soon as a BMW Plug-in Hybrid Electric Vehicle equipped with this service enters an eDrive zone, the mode of operation changes automatically to a purely electric operating mode. The eDrive zones include the official urban low emission zones in Germany but also further core areas of cities in Austria, Switzerland, the Netherlands, Belgium, France, Norway, Sweden and the United Kingdom. In order to recognise a BMW eDrive zone, geofencing is used via GPS. This service is already available in areas of 94 European cities. More inner city areas that are designated BMW eDrive zones will follow. The combined services BMW eDrive zone and BMW Points will help to take advantage of the Plug-in Hybrid Models' potential by reducing emissions in inner city road traffic as far as possible. Combining BMW Points and BMW eDrive Zones – all new to the automotive sector - the BMW Group shows once more how it uses its technology competency on a top-level to support electromobility and digitisation while promoting sustainable individual mobility. BMW Plug-in Hybrid Models are by now available in all relevant vehicle segments; the latest battery cell technology will further increase their electric range. New functions of BMW Points and BMW eDrive zone assure an even better utilization of the Plug-in Hybrid Electric Vehicles' potential, with their electric motor being consistently more efficient than a petrol or diesel engine, in particular in urban traffic. Increasing the electric drive parts is a contribution to optimise the efficiency and to reduce emissions but also to decrease the operational costs for the customer. BMW Plug-in Hybrid Models: many advantages in daily use. In addition, BMW Plug-in Hybrid Models offer their users even more advantages compared to traditional drives: Money saved: Electric driving in the city is cheaper than using petrol and diesel when the Plug-in-Hybrid Electric Vehicle is charged cost-effectively at home or at the employer. Tax advantage: Company Plug-in Hybrid cars get only taxed on half of the gross list price to determine the financial advantage when privately used in Germany. Always the right temperature, already when getting into the car: Pre-heating and stationary air conditioning come as standard. If you brake, you win: The battery is being re-charged when braking. With conventional vehicles braking only generates heat and brake abrasion. The best of two worlds: Plug-in Hybrid Models offer electric driving pleasure in the city and classic BMW driving pleasure on long distances. More quality of life in cities: By activating the electric drive mode, users may actively contribute to the reduction of emissions and traffic noise in the cities. For additional information regarding BMW Charging, please see the press release “BMW Charging and MINI Charging: expanded charging options for Gen5 market launch” from 14 October 2020 * Available in BMW 5 Series Sedan with producation date later than July 2020; available in 5 Series Touring with production date later than November 2020.

Ford in difficolta con i target CO2 per i problemi con i Kuga Phev infiammati.. Ford seeks CO2 help in Europe after Kuga recall Ford of Europe said it will join an open emissions pool with other manufacturers to bring down its CO2 levels and avoid fines in the region after it was forced to stop sales of its key low-emissions model, the Kuga plug-in hybrid. Ford did not say which manufacturer it would join, but Renault has filed notice with the European Commission that it is accepting partners for an open emissions pool. In addition, Volvo Cars said earlier this month that it would be open to forming an open pool, according to a report in the Financial Times. Volvo was part of Ford until 2010 when the U.S. company sold the Swedish automaker to its current owner, China’s Zhejiang Geely Holding. Renault and Volvo are likely to be well under their emissions targets for 2020. “We will provide more details in the next few days,” a Ford spokesman said. All notices to form pools must be filed with the European Commission by the end of October. Ford said that paying fines was not an option and said it would have met its CO2 target of 98 grams per km for the year had it not run into problems with the Kuga. “The current issues with the Kuga PHEV [plug-in hybrid electric vehicle] resulting in a stop-ship and stop-sale have affected our plan to meet the EU’s 2020 emissions regulations for passenger vehicles on our own,” Ford said in a statement (right). Ford in August recalled 20,808 Kuga plug-in hybrids, covering its production until June 26, after a number of vehicles caught fire. It asked Kuga owners not to drive the car in electric-only mode and not to charge the battery externally. Ford was within 1.4g/km of meeting its target by the end of the first half of the year, according report this week from Transport & Environment. Based on that, the green group predicted Ford was on course to meet its CO2 obligations in Europe. Other automakers have already formed open pools, including electric automaker Tesla and Fiat Chrysler Automobiles; Volkswagen Group and the Chinese company SAIC, which sells the MG brand in Europe; and Toyota and Mazda. One other open pool remains available. The London Electric Vehicle Company, which is also owned Zhejiang Geely, is accepting applications until Oct. 31. The European Commission considers a pool as a single manufacturer for the purpose of compliance with a specific CO2 emissions target. There are two types of pools: closed pools are brands under one automotive group, while open pools have at least one outside member. Ford said it intended to form an open pool for light commercial vehicles because it’s on track to be well below its CO2 target for vans in 2020. Volkswagen Group, which is collaborating with Ford in vans and electric vehicles, confirmed that it would participate in the pool, Bloomberg reported. Ford said that move would let VW Group’s commercial vehicles unit as well as other automakers “benefit from the positive CO2 performance of our light commercial fleet.” Ford aggressively marketed the Kuga plug-in hybrid in the first half of the year with the goal of bringing down its CO2 levels. Through June, the Kuga was the No. 5-selling plug-in hybrid in Europe after the Mitsubishi Outlander, Volkswagen Passat, BMW 3 Series and Volvo V60, data from T&E showed. (Automotivenews)

esatto, perche a Torino si e completamente incapace di lavorare con la sua heritage e fare prodotti che sono in sintonia con i radici di una marca. (come si vede questo e diverso a Monaco)

Si, sicuramente venira la programma individual (tutto la programma e piu come solo colore vernice, significa anche materiali diversi per gli interni ecc. ecc), ma adesso siamo prima della SOP per le M, il prog.individual normalmente inizia qualche tempo dopo la commercializzazione. In caso del colore esterno la possibilita in vista produzione/logistica per una colore fuore serie c'e sempre, ma in certi casi le organizzazioni della vendita del paese blocca la possibilita, sono scelte fatto dalla organizzazione del mercato specifico. Forse in tuo esempio con USA (un mercato che normalmente no fa ordine a richiesta del cliente, perche gli americani non accettano di aspettare mesi ad una macchina) non fanno, perche BMW USA non offre questo, ma mi sembra un po' strano questa storia. Ho gia visto cosi tante macchine in colore che fanno davvero schifo (rosa, pink, viola....) che non posso immaginarmi, che non si puo ordinare una M in grigio donington, ma senza di conoscere tutti i dettagli di questo caso, non si puo dire sicuro.

Motore 4.0 B6 aspirato, potenza >550CV

Boh...se facciamo lo stesso discorso "how it started" e "how it's now" con Lancia, poi vediamo qualcosa cosi 😡: Preferisco chiaramente la via di BMW 😢 (anche se avrebbe fare/integrare lo Stehgrill sicuramente meglio).

Per i motori si parla di questi step di potenza: SL43 - 3.0 L6 solo con TP, ca. 380CV SL53 - 3.0 L6 con TI SL53e - 3.0 L6, turbo + e-booster, TI, 440CV SL63 - 4.0 V8 >640CV SL73e - 4.0 V8, turbo, e-booster, TI, ca. 800CV il V12 muore con la nuova SL.

Si certo - naturalmente TP - sorry!!

Pianale su base CLAR-EVO modificato per uso Bev (CLAR non e una pianale fisso, sono moduli flessibile, vedi gia la differenza tra 5er e 7er), TA + TI e no, niente "5er G30 cross", e diverso in molte cose.

Renault seeks partners for emissions pool The Renault Zoe was the best-selling electric vehicle in Europe in the first half of 2020. EV sales benefit from double EU emissions "supercredits" this year. Renault has filed notice with the European Commission that it is accepting partners for an "open" emissions pool, an arrangement that allows automakers that are on track to meet tougher CO2 targets to combine their emissions with others that might be in danger of missing them, resulting in heavy fines. Open pools that have already been formed include EV maker Tesla and Fiat Chrysler Automobiles; Volkswagen Group and the Chinese company SAIC, which sells the MG brand in Europe; and Toyota and Mazda. The European Commission considers a pool as one manufacturer for the purpose of compliance with a specific CO2 emissions target. There are two types of pools: Closed pools are brands under one automotive group, while open pools have at least one outside member. The financial details of all open pools are not known, but Tesla’s revenues from its FCA pool in Europe -- and a similar arrangement in the U.S. -- were $594 million in 2019, and $354 million in the first quarter of 2020 alone. Renault is likely to be well under its emissions targets for 2020. It has Europe’s best-selling electric vehicle, the Zoe small hatchback, and this year introduced a number of electrified models, including plug-in hybrid versions of the Captur small SUV and Megane compact station wagon and hatchback, as well as a conventional hybrid version of the Clio small hatchback. Full-electric vehicles such as the Zoe are eligible for EU "supercredits," meaning that each sale is counted twice in 2020. In an update with the European Commission published on Friday, Renault said it was forming an open pool and accepting new members until Nov. 18. There are specific requirements, including the disclosure of CO2 emissions data to determine whether there is a risk the pool could miss its targets and providing documents showing the pool participant can cover to cost of any potential excess emissions premium. One other open pool remains available. The London Electric Vehicle Company, owned by Zhejiang Geely Holding Group of China, is accepting applications until Oct. 31. Volvo, which has a strong lineup of electrified models, said earlier this month that it would be open to forming an open pool, according to a report in the Financial Times. Daimler, which holds a 1.5 percent share in Renault Group and collaborates on development and production, could potentially join Renault’s pool. Daimler CEO Ola Källenius has said meeting emissions targets in 2020-21 would be a "challenge." A Daimler media spokesman said the emissions targets were "ambitious" but that for 2020, "Daimler is not negotiating about pooling with other manufacturers." Automakers that sell in Europe must meet a fleetwide CO2 average of 95 grams per km, with each company assigned a specific target based on the average mass of the vehicles they sell. Thus, companies with heavier vehicles such as Daimler have higher targets than those that primarily sell small cars, such as Renault. https://europe.autonews.com/automakers/renault-seeks-partners-emissions-pool

Si, almeno i cavi con elettricita di alta tensione secondo un legge europeo devono essere arrancione.

...hmmm...filtro dell' aria per una Bev? Dubbio 🤔 Credo piu la elettronica di potenza.

Forse fino 2035 divieti degli stati non sono piu necessario perche non sara piu una offerte di macchine ICE... Un statement di Markus Schäfer, capo sviluppo alla Daimler: ........Mercedes wants to reduce complexity within the development and production processes with a goal of slashing spending 20 percent by 2025 from 2019 levels, executives said last Tuesday during the company's capital markets day, which was streamed online. "We are going to reduce platforms and number of combustion engines very dramatically," Markus Shaefer, Mercedes chief operating officer and R&D boss, said in the presentation. "We will drop our transmission count and eliminate manual gearboxes. Instead we will shift development resources toward electric drive." Mercedes said it would reduce the number of variants offered with combustion engines 40 percent by 2025 and 70 percent by 2030, both reductions are compared with the automaker's current level. Mercedes will phase out manual transmissions offered in its passenger cars between now and 2030, a spokesman said. The brand only offers manual transmissions in its compact range, including the A-Class, as well as the C-Class midsize model family. The replacement for the C-Class, due next year, is not expected to offer a manual transmission.......

Fai la A3 tra Aschaffenburg e Würzburg, la A95 tra Monaco e Garmisch o fai una bella battaglia con una Panigale o simile su Muraglione o Futa/Raticosa (certo, sempre in codice) e poi ti meravigli, come veloce 45-50 Kwh sono consumato.

Si certo, questo e il modo di vedere il contenuto del problema. Ma in un mercato globale, qualche partecipante grande/potente fanno certe decisione, poi questo e valio per tutti, non sei in grado come piccolo e povero Europa di girare il mondo. che in una supersportiva che si muove anche come una sportiva e non come una Panda, bastano per ca. 100Km.

Al momento per questi dati parliamo di nuovi immatricolazioni, non per il parco esistente.

perche? In California sara 2035 un divieto totale per propulsori ICE, in molti provincie di Cina gia 2030.

Banalita dell‘ „digital light“ ??