I Prossimi Modelli Lotus

[KimKardashian]

7 minuti fa, GL91 scrive:

Escludendo Mercedes, di cui hanno quote ma dalla quale non mi pare abbiano mai "prelevato" motori, Geely ha qualche propulsore con più di 4 cilindri?

No solo i VEA Volvo e roba elettrica 

[Auditore]

Come motori termici non possono usare quelli della Emira? c'è sia il 2.0 Mercedes che il V6 toyota

[Beckervdo]

3 ore fa, GL91 scrive:

Escludendo Mercedes, di cui hanno quote ma dalla quale non mi pare abbiano mai "prelevato" motori, Geely ha qualche propulsore con più di 4 cilindri?

Veramente la Emira ha il 4 cilindri MB sotto al cofano eh

[GL91]

7 ore fa, Beckervdo scrive:

Veramente la Emira ha il 4 cilindri MB sotto al cofano eh

 

Hai ragione, essendo un prodotto specialistico e in piccoli numeri non l'avevo considerata.

In ogni caso io mi riferivo a frazionamenti maggiori (essendo Emeya e Eletre due segmento F ipotizzavo pensassero a qualcosa in più di un 4 cilindri, anche se ibrido), mi chiedevo se Geely avesse qualcosa in banca organi o dovesse per forza telefonare a Stoccarda.

[Beckervdo]

On 22/11/2024 at 07:18, GL91 scrive:

 

Hai ragione, essendo un prodotto specialistico e in piccoli numeri non l'avevo considerata.

In ogni caso io mi riferivo a frazionamenti maggiori (essendo Emeya e Eletre due segmento F ipotizzavo pensassero a qualcosa in più di un 4 cilindri, anche se ibrido), mi chiedevo se Geely avesse qualcosa in banca organi o dovesse per forza telefonare a Stoccarda.

Possono, ma il VEA di Volvo è modulare. Ci mettono "poco" a creare un 6 cilindri 3.0 litri.

 

[superkappa125]

Secondo Autocar, l'impianto di Norfolk sarebbe prossimo alla chiusura per trasferire la produzione negli Stati Uniti, a seguito dei dazi.

La produzione di Emira é stata fermata a maggio e non verrebbe quindi più ripresa.

 

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Lotus plans to close UK plant in Norfolk and shift production to US

 

Lotus plans to close UK plant in Norfolk and shift production to US

Firm could end production at Norfolk factory after 59 years and start building cars in US

 

Lotus UK has been told it needs to prepare for the end of production at Hethel as the Geely-owned company pivots production towards the US.

The order to stop has come from Lotus management in China,  a source told Autocar. 

Lotus didn’t provide a comment, but did confirm that production of the Emira sports car, the plant’s chief model, has been paused since mid-May as it managed the fallout from the increase in tariffs in its key market of the US.

 

Lotus wants instead to build cars in the US., eradicating tariff barriers. “We believe that localization is a feasible plan,” Lotus CEO Feng Qingfeng said on his company’s first quarter earnings call June 25. “We are trying to leverage our US strategy to catch up the losses due to the tariff hike.” 

Feng said that the company had an “in-depth discussion with our strategic partners” to build in the US, without mentioning names. The strongest possibility is that Lotus moves some production, including possibly the Emira to Volvo’s under-utilised plant in South Carolina. Volvo is also owned by Geely.

Lotus has scrambled to reduce costs amid persistent losses. The company in April laid off 270 workers at Hethel and is Autocar understands its Clerkenwell headquarters is set to close having only been opened a few months ago at huge expense. The brand’s flagship store on Park Lane has been transferred to dealer group HR Owen, understood to also be part of a cost cutting move.

Lotus sales fell 42% in the first quarter of the year, marking the first significant decline since Geely rolled out a new range of electric ‘lifestyle’ vehicles including the Eletre SUV and Emeya sedan.

Geely bought the brand in 2017 from Malaysia’s DRB-Hitcom, which also owns Proton, but has yet to see a return on the its £2 billion investment. Lotus posted a net loss of $183 million the first quarter while debts increased to $3.3 billion.

The company has been hit by muted demand for cars at the top end of the electric segment. “In recent years, premium brand BEV penetration does not meet our expectation,” Feng said on the call. 

 

The US was to be a big market for the new electric cars but the country’s imposition of 100% tariffs on China-built EVs forced Lotus to stop selling the Eletre there. Demand has also fallen in Europe and China, with deliveries of the Eletre and Emeya down 31% to 719 in the first three months.

The company will pivot instead to Hyper Hybrid PHEVs with Lotus sports cars also in-line for an electrified drivetrain. The first Lotus plug-in hybrid will be the Eletre and will go on sale in the first quarter of next year, starting in China.

Hethel was to build a planned electric sports car when Emira production ended but lack of enthusiasm in the market forced Lotus to postpone to the car indefinitely. “Is the market ready for an electric sports car? I don't really know the answer to that yet,” Lotus Europe CEO Windle told Autocar in May.

Windle had been pushing Geely to build more models in the Hethel plant, which assembled around 5000 Emiras last year but has a theoretical capacity for 10,000. One potential model was the specialist Polestar 6 electric roadster. “I think we could build it,” Windle said. “There's an element of transition because at the moment it's just ICE, but we're going to have to go on that journey.”

 

Geely might have judged that Hethel wasn’t worth investing in further given that legislation would force the end of combustion engine cars, with the less climate-friendly US emerging as the last major combustion engine market on the planet.

Lotus CEO Feng has previously said that the company is assessing a V8 option for the Emira.

Lotus’s reset has come after the company dramatically over-estimated its growth. Ahead of its listing in New York in 2024, the company predicted it would be building 150,000 cars year by 2028, most from a new factory in Wuhan, China. A midsize SUV aimed at the Porsche Macan and codenamed Type 134 would deliver the bulk of sales when it launched in 2027. However the Type 134 was put on hold amid the EV slowdown and Lotus has struggled to build the momentum it needs to pay for the investment. Deliveries last year reached 12,134.

Closing Hethel would be a massive blow for the government, which earlier this week laid out its industrial strategy to help grow vehicle production to 1.3 million by 2035, up from 905,233 last year.

Lotus production is small compared to bigger players like JLR but the brand has survived in its Norfolk home since 1966, when Lotus founder Colin Chapman bought the former airfield from the government. Geely invested £100 million in the site, including a new sports car manufacturing facility that opened in 2022 to build the Emira. 

One former senior Lotus executive called plans for closure “a disgrace”.

 

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/lotus-plans-close-uk-plant-norfolk-and-shift-production-us

Modificato Venerdì alle 20:54 da superkappa125

[andreadb]

3 minuti fa, superkappa125 scrive:

Secondo Autocar, l'impianto di Norfolk sarebbe prossimo alla chiusura per trasferire la produzione negli Stati Uniti, a seguito dei dazi.

La produzione di Emira é stata fermata a maggio e non verrebbe quindi più ripresa.

 

 

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/lotus-plans-close-uk-plant-norfolk-and-shift-production-us

il vantaggio di fare pochi pezzi, così è più facile spostarsi

[superkappa125]

13 minutes ago, andreadb said:

il vantaggio di fare pochi pezzi, così è più facile spostarsi

É la conferma del fallimento totale della gestione Geely. 

Un marchio storico come Lotus non può essere ri-localizzato secondo necessità. Hanno sbagliato le previsioni di crescita e ora navigano a vista.

[GL91]

Qualquadra non cosa però: il problema sono i dazi sulle EV costruite in Cina, e la soluzione è chiudere Hetel?

USA e UK non avevano raggiunto un accordo che prevedeva un'aliquota del 10% per le auto prodotte in UK?

[TurboGimmo]

1 ora fa, superkappa125 scrive:

É la conferma del fallimento totale della gestione Geely. 

Un marchio storico come Lotus non può essere ri-localizzato secondo necessità. Hanno sbagliato le previsioni di crescita e ora navigano a vista.

 

Ma non è che i precedenti proprietari invece prima avessero fatto miracoli.

 

Chiedessero e stop (e non solo loro)

 

È la natura.

Alcune specie si estinguono, nuove nascono.

Basta con questi accanimenti terapeutici che non servono a nessuno.