4 ore fa, stev66 dice:

It is important to keep in mind that this car, as Renegade and Cherooke, is principally thought for US and China markets. Today , sell numbers show that this way is the right way. In Italy we have a byword : "Squadra vincente non si cambia"  ( a rough translation is "Never change a winning team" )

 

 

La Renegade fa parte di un segmento che non è molto americano, inEu oltre a fare buoni numeri di vendita ha prezzi nettamente più alti quindi non direi che e pensata per l'america....

E comunque se vuoi fare un brand globale non puoi fare un prodotto pensato per un mercato solo, il problema secondo me è anche la differenza di posizio amento del marchio tra i vari mercati......perchè finche vuoi fare il premium nel seg.B basta un pò di caratterizzazione ma poi nel segmento D non puoi chiedere 50000euro per un auto con interni a livello di Hyundai.

E comunque se l'udi riesce a vendere la Q3 con quegli interni.......

 

Modificato 17 Giugno 20169 anni fa da uccio21

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Jeep Compass, Patriot replacement due early next year

 

Luxury Wagoneer, Grand Wagoneer to be distinguished by trim levels, Jeep boss says

 

CHELSEA, Mich. -- The single vehicle replacement for the Jeep Compass and Patriot will debut in late September in Brazil and will retain one of the two names, Jeep brand head Mike Manley said today.

Manley said the vehicle, known internally as the C-SUV, is not delayed and will be shown in the U.S. at the L.A. Auto Show in November. It will appear in U.S. dealerships in early 2017, Manley said.

Its official reveal in Brazil will be during a celebration of the start of production at FCA’s new Pernambuco assembly plant, which also builds the Jeep Renegade, Manley said.

The Compass replacement will share the smaller Renegade’s platform as well as its disconnecting front-wheel-drive-based drivetrain. For North America, the Compass replacement will be built in Toluca, Mexico, instead of the Compass’s current home in Belvidere, Ill. It also will be assembled in China for the Chinese market, with start of production scheduled for late this year.

“In every plant, the status of the launch is very much on track,” Manley said.

Manley said the vehicle has not changed since it was first shown to journalists in Detroit in December.

Speaking to reporters during Fiat Chrysler’s annual “What’s New” event for journalists at its Chelsea Proving Grounds here, Manley clarified the Jeep brand’s future product plans to go both smaller and larger.

He said he continues to study an entry-level Jeep that would be smaller than even the Renegade but would be sold primarily outside North America.

“I am right in the middle of that right now. I have a strong belief that there is an opportunity for a smaller Jeep, beyond Renegade. That opportunity lies … outside of NAFTA,” Manley said. “I’m not sure NAFTA would ever be the lead market for such a vehicle to be codeveloped with the next-generation Grand Cherokee onto a new platform.”

Manley said a Wagoneer and Grand Wagoneer are best thought of as luxury trim levels instead of wholly separate vehicles.

“The Wagoneeer name represents, historically, the pinnacle of premium for the Jeep world. But in the same way as you may have an Overland and a Summit, you have different trim levels, so you could imagine the use of Wagoneer to denote a really premium vehicle, and Grand Wagoneer takes it to the very next level,” Manley said. “So if you were to use that as your naming strategy, that’s exactly how I would use the trims.”

Manley said the next-generation Jeep Wrangler under development will be more fuel-efficient and is “on schedule and on track.” It will be introduced in the first half of 2017.

“To be honest with you, I’m delighted in the way it’s turning out, not just from a styling point of view, but from an overall point of what Wrangler stands for, I’m very pleased,” Manley said.

“We’ve made a large number of changes in terms of fuel economy, both enablers in terms of weight, with the aero[dynamics] of Wrangler, because at the end of the day, it needs to be recognized as Wrangler,” Manley said. “With weight [reductions] and a number of changes that we’ve made, you’re going to see that we’ve really pushed that vehicle forward in terms of fuel economy.”

On a related note, Manley set a hard date for the introduction of a long-awaited Wrangler-based pickup: Early 2018.

“Anything Jeep does has to have an inherent level of capability ... that drives some extent both the positioning of the vehicle and the cost of the vehicle,” he said. “I have no desire today to do a stripped-down” Jeep pickup.

Link

http://www.autonews.com/article/20160623/OEM04/160629908/jeep-compass-patriot-replacement-due-early-next-year

Sono interessato al mezzo...motori si sa già qualcosa?

C'e' qualcosa di vero in cio' che si dice al link seguente? In particolare di una ipotetica variante in salsa 500

http://2017uscars2018.com/2016/04/30/2017-jeep-compass-release-news/

fino ad ora non mi sembra ci fossero state notizie in merito e nemmeno muletti strani in giro ; poi l' articolo dice che il fiat avrebbe un frontale tipo il toro brasiliano e non mi sembra che sia un design compatibile con la linea 500

o è qualcosa di brasiliano o è pura fantasia ; ma sarei più sulla seconda che ho detto

9 minutes ago, TONI said:

fino ad ora non mi sembra ci fossero state notizie in merito e nemmeno muletti strani in giro ; poi l' articolo dice che il fiat avrebbe un frontale tipo il toro brasiliano e non mi sembra che sia un design compatibile con la linea 500

o è qualcosa di brasiliano o è pura fantasia ; ma sarei più sulla seconda che ho detto

Quindi potrebbe essere che la variante Fiat sia quel suv di cui in giro si sono viste delle spy che richiamano al Toro? Quello per cui esiste un thread su autopareri in cui si ipotizza che possa essere il nuovo Freemont

Modificato 16 Luglio 20169 anni fa da vince-991
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che però non mi pare avesse dimensioni comparabili a questo compass

54 minuti fa, vince-991 dice:

Quindi potrebbe essere che la variante Fiat sia quel suv di cui in giro si sono viste delle spy che richiamano al Toro? Quello per cui esiste un thread su autopareri in cui si ipotizza che possa essere il nuovo Freemont

 

No. Trattasi di roba cinese, se non erro.

Confermo, quel robo spacciato per Freemont è roba made in China con sede del centro sviluppo in Svezia.

Quindi del c-suv Fiat di cui si legge in giro, al momento, non c'e' traccia. Ma una accoppiata c-suv Jeep/Fiat come quella Renegade/500x non avrebbe senso?