[Mai Nate] Alfa Romeo

[DOssi]

1 ora fa, max_pershin scrive:

 

 

By the way, I would like to ask you. it is about your comment. Do you have an open top car? Did you drive a car with a flat almost vertical windshield, like G-Wagen (W460-461) for instance?

 

 

I work in a car dealer..i ve drove some cars

Flat windshield?  no G-Wagen , but 90' Wrangler. bad car very bad car.

[max_pershin]

35 minutes ago, DOssi said:

 

I work in a car dealer..i ve drove some cars

Flat windshield?  no G-Wagen , but 90' Wrangler. bad car very bad car.

So probably you know the purpose of such weird angle of the windshield. 1. It provides a driver more open space above the head, and allows the driver and passenger to enjoy the nature. Many modern cars and cars back in 90s have a windshield that almost touches the head of the driver. yes, it is more safe but the same time it does not feel like cabriolet. 2. The less inclined windshield, the flat one, gives you much greater visibility, driving comfort and pleasure of driving. 

 

Basically designers, who made this aka "Kubelwagen" solution, knew what they did. 

 

P.S. It is easy to critique something after almost 38 years. This particular design proposal was done in the end of 1987, and later, in July 1988, the final design of GTV/Spider was approved.

 

Do you see the fundamental differences?

 

Modificato 27 Giugno da max_pershin

[__P]

Già viste?

 

 

 

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Modificato 3 Luglio da __P

[falconero79]

si, prototipi di alfetta spider

 

[max_pershin]

Alfa Romeo, according to the production plans, did not have intent to manufacture Spider/Targa on the Alfetta platform. Moreover Alfa Romeo wanted to build cars in house and stop outsourcing (Bertone and Pininfarina). New Spider supposed to be built on the Alfasud platform. So these two proposals did not relate to real AR plans and as I understand were built by Pininfarina itself.

Modificato 4 Luglio da max_pershin

[max_pershin]

@PaoloGTC

 

This is looks like a general layout of the Projetto 156 (AR4 prepared for wind tunnel tests).

There are some new things, at least for me.

1. Independent rear suspension (no more De Dion)

2. Fuel tank and spare wheel in identical to Alfetta position

3. Engine placed in the normal position (not shifted to the center)

 

 

Would be interesting to look underneath of the GTV6 2.5 (119C0001) which was built on the Alfa 6 platform in 1985! I wonder if it has a rear suspension similar to 156.

 

[Indav]

On 06/07/2025 at 06:04, max_pershin scrive:

@PaoloGTC

 

Da che volume/periodico è tratta questa scansione?

[max_pershin]

15 hours ago, Indav said:

 

Da che volume/periodico è tratta questa scansione?

Bruno Alfieri, Alfa Romeo 164

[DOssi]

Una proposta Pininfarina a firma Camardella per una berlina su base 164

 

Una Renault 21 alfizzata.

 

Piu interessanti gli interni.

 

 

[nucarote]

Ci vedo più Buick che Renault 21 in questa 164.