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Stefano73

Tata Xenon 2006

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Ho visto qui:

http://www.repubblica.it/2004/c/motori/gallerie/tata/motorshow-tata/1.html

Il prossimo Tata pick-up completamente nuovo (avrà almeno 15 anni).

Dato che c'è un accordo di un paio di mesi fa con fiat per produrre un pick-up coi 2 marchi (TATA-FIAT) nel 2008 in argentina a cordoba.....penso che questo sia proprio il modello prescelto, ovviamente con qualche modifica...non credo che in un anno ne progettino un altro!!!

Motori ho visto che tata ha un nuovo 2200 dicor da 140cv.....fiat però può dare gli ottimi 2300-2800 del ducato, vedremo è un auto che può interessare molto non solo america latina e india ma anche da noi le zone montane e molti artigiani-sportivi....

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Ho visto qui:

http://www.repubblica.it/2004/c/motori/gallerie/tata/motorshow-tata/1.html

Il prossimo Tata pick-up completamente nuovo (avrà almeno 15 anni).

Dato che c'è un accordo di un paio di mesi fa con fiat per produrre un pick-up coi 2 marchi (TATA-FIAT) nel 2008 in argentina a cordoba.....penso che questo sia proprio il modello prescelto, ovviamente con qualche modifica...non credo che in un anno ne progettino un altro!!!

Motori ho visto che tata ha un nuovo 2200 dicor da 140cv.....fiat però può dare gli ottimi 2300-2800 del ducato, vedremo è un auto che può interessare molto non solo america latina e india ma anche da noi le zone montane e molti artigiani-sportivi....

Ma il 2300 e il 2800 non sono di PSA? Non credo abbia il permesso di sfruttarli anche per altri modelli e marchi.

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Non ho capito una cosa, questo pick-up che si vede nella foto è nuovo o ha 15 anni ristilizzato?

Questo è quello nuovo...quello che dicevo che avrà 15 anni lo trovi in listino

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Questo è quello nuovo...quello che dicevo che avrà 15 anni lo trovi in listino

..ma quello attualmente in vigore dispone già del 2200cc, vero?

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..ma quello attualmente in vigore dispone già del 2200cc, vero?

Mi pare che il 2200 140cv dicor sia l'ultima novità tata per la safari non per il pick-up

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05.12.2006 TATA CLIFFRIDER PROJECT COULD BE BUILT BY FIAT IN ARGENTINA

Fiat Automòveis are at the moment investigating the possibility of commercialising Tata Motors' recent Cliffrider Pick-up/Sports Utility Vehicle project as part of the two firms' deepening proposals to assemble Fiat and Tata branded products at the formers' Cordoba factory in Argentina.

Tata first showed their double-cab "Cliffrider" concept at the Geneva Motor Show in March, and it could solve several issues at a stroke. The new platform can quickly be adapted to being put into production as either a pick-up or SUV, Tata have already shown both options in concept format and it's arrival would rapidly plug a large market gap for Fiat Automòveis, as the autonomous Brazilian arm of Fiat Auto is not at present represented in the either mid-size pick-up or SUV market segment. Fiat is, at the same time, particularly keen to build on the sales successes which has been achieved by the small Strada pick-up in recent years: it is currently Brazil's best-selling commercial vehicle; and bringing to the market progressively upscale 'family' of pick-ups is seen as being an immediate priority. Fiat also believes there is a strong upside in extending the highly popular 'Adventure' branding, which sees several road range models given a more rugged and stylish off-road look, onto new larger vehicles in a revamped range.

The Tata Cliffrider could be commercialised as soon as the end of next year, or by early 2008. It would be badged by both Fiat and Tata Motors, and also exported and sold by Fiat in Europe, where demand for this type of vehicle is growing. In fact the Brazilian-built Strada Adventure version has just been launched on several European markets. The Cliffrider will be proposed as having two or four wheel drive, a range manual and automatic gearboxes, and using a newly revised version of Tata's 3.0 litre DICOR engine, with 157 bhp available to replace the somewhat underpowered current unit that turns out just 115 bhp. Fiat has also recently investigated the potential of Tata's "Safari" SUV for South America, although interest in this ageing model appears to remain open.

Additional reporting by Claudio Perlini

italiaspeed.com

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secondo me faranno il cliffrider davvero..

altro documento, piccolo ot su safari..

16.11.2006 FIAT AND TATA PREPARING TO BUILD THE TATA SAFARI SUV AT CORDOBA

The manufacturing alliance between Fiat Auto and Tata Motors is unfolding rapidly with Fiat Automòveis now testing the Tata Safari in Brazil with the SUV expected to be built alongside a new pick-up in Argentina.

Earlier this year it was revealed that Fiat and Tata Motors were investigating building a pick-up at the former's underused car plant at Cordoba in Argentina, as part of an in-depth study into areas in which the two companies could strategically cooperate. Production of the Fiat Palio hatchback at the Cordoba plant ceased a few years ago when the Argentinean economy faltered and the moribund plant now just produces some mechanical components. Last week it was confirmed during the Fiat Investor Presentation at Lingotto that a 1-ton pick up would be assembled at the plant, and badged by both Fiat and Tata. Initial production is slated for 25,000 units per year with the launch date set for the second half of 2008. The pickup will also be exported to Europe where it will be sold under the Fiat brand name.

Alongside the pickup, Fiat are currently evaluating to practicality of building the Tata "Safari" SUV. Several Safari models are now busy pounding the roads around Fiat Automòveis' Betim factory in the Minas Gerais region. The new 1-ton pickup vehicle is expected to be built on the Safari's architecture so excellent economies of scale can be achieved by assembling both models at the Cordoba factory. The Tata Safari model was first launched in 1998 as a 90 bhp turbodiesel SUV, but weighing more than 2,000 kg it was regarded as quite underpowered. A facelift last year addressed this overriding issue by incorporating the option of Tata's DICOR (Direct Injection Common Rail) commercial engine.

DICOR is a 2956cc in-line, 4-cylinder unit that is able to develop 115 bhp at 3,000 rpm, and 290 Nm of torque in the range of 1,600 to 2,000 rpm. The DICOR engine was sourced for the Safari from the Tata 407, a truck from the Tata Motors commercial range.

The Tata Safari is 4810 mm long, 1918 mm wide, 1925 mm high and with a wheelbase of 2650 mm. Its off-road capable suspension features independent double wishbones with torsion bar at the front, and coils springs with 5 links at the rear. It has ventilated disc brakes at the front and drums at the rear, and 235/75 R 16 tyres fitted all round. It also has a 6 metre turning circle and a 65 litre fuel tank. The top specification model, fitted with the the DICOR power unit, has seven seats and comes with a range of features including roof lining and rear-of-seat located LCD monitor screens, a DVD player, a compact refrigerator and multi-zone heating.

However the Safari is a heavy SUV: the 2WD version weighs 2,115 kg, with with the 4x4 option incorporated it comes in even higher at 2,225 kg. This excessive weight is believed to be concerning the Fiat Automòveis engineering development team, as well as the suitability of the DICOR engine to the South American market. Their attention is expected to focus on reducing the SUV's weight before it enters production at Cordoba, while replacing the DICOR unit with one of Fiat's own common rail turbodiesel engines is also a likely scenario.

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