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Autocar parla di lavori in corso grazie ai fondi Geely sia per l'ammiraglia della gamma Lotus (da posizionarsi sopra Evora, ai livelli della McLaren 570S e Audi R8) che per la sostituta della Elise, che sicuramente sarà piü costosa rispetto all'attuale.

 

I motori Toyota sopravvivono sul breve/medio termine, ma la loro sostituzione per qualcosa made in Volvo é praticamente inevitabile.

 

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New Lotus Esprit supercar to hit roads in 2020

Modern-day Esprit is being readied for 2020 alongside another new sports car

New Esprit will be light, aerodynamic, efficient and agile

Evora GT430 is almost 150kg lighter than the original Evora S

Elise (pictured), Exige and 3-Eleven all use the same platform

by Richard Webber

8 May 2018

Lotus boss Jean-Marc Gales has revealed that two new sports cars are in the pipeline as investment begins to materialise from the company’s new owner, Chinese automotive giant Geely.

The two cars will include a new star model, due in 2020, that will sit above the Evora — essentially placing it as a modern-day version of the Esprit. It follows recent news that Lotus is currently finalising the design of its first crossover, which is expected to make use of Geely-owned Volvo’s SPA architecture.

The Norfolk-based company currently employs two platform families: one underpins the flagship Evora, which is available as a 2+2 and a 2+0, and the other sits beneath the Elise, Exige and hardcore 3-Eleven two-seaters. Both use an extruded, bonded and riveted aluminium chassis with either aluminium or composite front and steel rear subframes. The new star model will make use of the same chassis formula.

Following a programme of weight reduction during Gales’s four years at the helm, the lightest Evora – the GT430 Sport – has shed almost 150kg compared with the original supercharged Evora S, while power has risen from 276bhp for the early naturally aspirated car to a peak of 430bhp in today’s GT430 models. The non-Sport GT430 also generates up to 250kg of downforce.

Lotus could switch to Volvo powertrains

But Gales has said the new model will be a significant development, sitting “in an upper segment, above the Evora”, and it will “take the Evora a step further” and will be lighter. He reiterated his commitment to Lotus’s key tenets of “lightweight, aerodynamic and handling” and insisted the new car will satisfy all three. The GT430 already features carbonfibre front and rear bumpers, front access panel, roof panel, tailgate and rear wing. A more focused model could replace more of the remaining GRP bodywork with further carbonfibre or lightweight composites.

The Evora GT430 is more a competitor to the Porsche 911 GT3 than to the GT3 RS, but a completely new model could go a step further. Gales would not be drawn on power outputs or with which cars the new Lotus is likely to compete, but he said he wants the new car to achieve class-leading status via “efficiency, aerodynamics, agility and braking working together in balance”.

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Although he predicted that Lotus will begin to embrace powertrains from other divisions within Geely, Gales said Lotus cars will continue to employ Toyota engines in the immediate future. The current line-up consists of 1.6- and 1.8-litre four-pots in the Elise and a 3.5-litre V6 in other models, all of which are of alloy construction and supercharged, ranging in power from 217bhp to 430bhp.

Fewer details are available on the second new sports car, but it is likely to be a two-seater. Whether it will directly succeed the Elise or evolve that model’s format is unclear, but Gales acknowledged that “the market is now moving a bit more upmarket”. The significant cost of developing a new model would be offset by pitching it at a higher price point than the current Elise, which starts at £32,300.

Should this upward progression materialise, such a model could bridge the power gap between the most potent Elise, the 250bhp Cup 260, and the entry-level Exige, the 345bhp Sport 350.

Lotus’s modernisation under its new owner could also include the use of Geely-sourced ancillaries. Gales cited a modern electrical architecture and TFT instrument panels as examples of the synergies that could be achieved via Geely. 

Autocar.co.uk

 

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Lotus could switch to Volvo powertrains

Although Toyota engines will still be used for now, Jean-Marc Gales wants to make use of other options available from Geely brands

Hybrid or full electric are options for Lotus’s new SUV

 

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Jean-Marc Gales expects Lotus to still be using Toyota engines in the immediate future, but the Lotus boss is keen to embrace the powertrain options available from other Geely-owned brands.

Such co-operation is most likely to make use of resources developed by Volvo, whose technology is also being used by fellow Geely brands Polestar andLynk&Co.

Volvo’s petrol range now consists of a 152bhp 1.5-litre three-cylinder turbo and several variations of a 2.0-litre turbo four-pot making between 187bhp and 306bhp, with the latter aided by supercharging.

It is expected that Lotus would use in-house expertise to boost performance from any Geely-sourced engines, as it does with the current Toyota units, but it seems unlikely that an unassisted 2.0-litre four-cylinder engine would provide the power required for Hethel’s top-performing sports cars.

 

Opportunities to tackle this are provided by electrified versions of the same three and four-cylinder petrol engines. Currently, that means Volvo’s 401bhp T8 hybrid. But other variants — such as the three-pot hybrid expected in the Volvo XC40 and Lynk&Co 01 SUVs and the 592bhp four-cylinder hybrid of the Polestar 1 coupé — aren’t far away, with all-electric models also in the pipeline.

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Talking about powertrain options for the higher-riding Lotus that’s due within four years, Gales said: “Crossovers can be hybrid or full electric.” As for future propulsion choices in Lotus’s more familiar segments, Gales did not rule out electrification, saying: “There are some years left for combustion engines in sports cars, but maybe a mild hybrid would work.”

Gales is also open to using full-electric systems in that sector as the technology evolves. “The pace of development in electric drive is incredible and batteries are also moving fast,” he said.

 

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La teoria è quando si conosce il funzionamento di qualcosa ma quel qualcosa non funziona.

La pratica è quando tutto funziona ma non si sa come.

Spesso si finisce con il coniugare la teoria con la pratica: non funziona niente e non si sa il perché.

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Ecco una immagine leaked della Elise elettrica..

Trovata in alta risoluzione, è una foto di un comunicato stampa ufficiale  lotus enginering , notate che hanno cancellato il nome sul camion..... secondo me ci saranno 3 versioni e 3 nomi.. comunicato

Chi può ed apprezza  porti a casa ora una Elise o una Exige 

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On 9/5/2018 at 11:51, superkappa125 dice:

Autocar parla di lavori in corso grazie ai fondi Geely sia per l'ammiraglia della gamma Lotus (da posizionarsi sopra Evora, ai livelli della McLaren 570S e Audi R8) che per la sostituta della Elise, che sicuramente sarà piü costosa rispetto all'attuale.

  

I motori Toyota sopravvivono sul breve/medio termine, ma la loro sostituzione per qualcosa made in Volvo é praticamente inevitabile.

  

Autocar.co.uk

 

  

 

Che arrivi il motore Volvo sulle piccole è pacifico e ci sta... ma con che cambio? 

L'anti McLaren con un 4 cilindri fa ridere.

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37 minuti fa, jeby dice:

Che arrivi il motore Volvo sulle piccole è pacifico e ci sta... ma con che cambio? 

L'anti McLaren con un 4 cilindri fa ridere.

A naso, il tetris dei motori/trasmissioni lo stanno ancora giocando.

 

Sui cambi non mi preoccuperei piü di tanto, il manuale odierno non é che sia un capolavoro insostituibile. Andrebbero benissimo le trasmissioni in dotazione a Volvo.

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La teoria è quando si conosce il funzionamento di qualcosa ma quel qualcosa non funziona.

La pratica è quando tutto funziona ma non si sa come.

Spesso si finisce con il coniugare la teoria con la pratica: non funziona niente e non si sa il perché.

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On 14/5/2018 at 09:48, jeby dice:

Che arrivi il motore Volvo sulle piccole è pacifico e ci sta... ma con che cambio? 

L'anti McLaren con un 4 cilindri fa ridere.

C'erano voci, successive all'acquisto di quote Mercedes da parte degli azionisti di Volvo e Lotus, secondo le quali Volvo potrebbe usare in futuro il 6 cilindri nuovo Mercedes. Magari anche in Lotus potrebbero attingere alla banca organi tedesca (anzi, mi pare più sensato dell' ipotesi precedente), ammesso che i cinesi di Geely mantengano le loro quote Mercedes.

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2 ore fa, GL91 dice:

C'erano voci, successive all'acquisto di quote Mercedes da parte degli azionisti di Volvo e Lotus, secondo le quali Volvo potrebbe usare in futuro il 6 cilindri nuovo Mercedes. Magari anche in Lotus potrebbero attingere alla banca organi tedesca (anzi, mi pare più sensato dell' ipotesi precedente), ammesso che i cinesi di Geely mantengano le loro quote Mercedes.

Però il sei in linea di MB non monterebbe in trasversale, quindi non potrebbero usare il telaio di Evora... :pen:

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La teoria è quando si conosce il funzionamento di qualcosa ma quel qualcosa non funziona.

La pratica è quando tutto funziona ma non si sa come.

Spesso si finisce con il coniugare la teoria con la pratica: non funziona niente e non si sa il perché.

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Faranno una sorta di Polestar 1 con i volumi di carrozzeria stile Huran Evora ecc... motore 2.0 litri Volvo e elettrici per circa 600 cavalli... piuttosto scontata

dopotutto se han venduto tutte le Polestar in pochi giorni ad un folle prezzo figurati una Lotus che ha piu appeal

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15 ore fa, superkappa125 dice:

Però il sei in linea di MB non monterebbe in trasversale, quindi non potrebbero usare il telaio di Evora... :pen:

Vero, a meno che non sia modificabile. C'è sempre il 2.0 della A45 eventualmente, i 400 cv li raggiunge tranquillamente.

6 ore fa, KimKardashian dice:

Faranno una sorta di Polestar 1 con i volumi di carrozzeria stile Huran Evora ecc... motore 2.0 litri Volvo e elettrici per circa 600 cavalli... piuttosto scontata

dopotutto se han venduto tutte le Polestar in pochi giorni ad un folle prezzo figurati una Lotus che ha piu appeal

Il 2.0 Volvo anche è una ipotesi probabile, magari con qualche cavallo in più rispetto a quelli attuali, ma il modulo ibrido tenderei ad escluderlo, troppo pesante, non mi pare proprio adatto ad una Lotus che per definizione deve essere più leggera possibile.

 

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Non so quanto pesa la Polestar in quanto non riesco a trovarlo ma con i tutti i materiali che han usato penso sui 1500 kg... una ipotetica Esprit nuova se scende sui 1300 la vedo comunque perfetta col 2.0 Volvo e l elettrico della Polestra che comunque ha 608 cavalli

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