4 minutes ago, iDrive said:

Il nuovo 2.0 eTorque del Wrangler e 12 o 48v ? Non riesco a saperlo...

48V. But for European market it will not have mild hybrid system. Awful decision if you ask me.

45 minuti fa, Bare dice:

48V. But for European market it will not have mild hybrid system. Awful decision if you ask me.

I presume they will change their mind about this choice, it is a micro hybrid engine for Compass as well and for other cars in the group.

If the Italian local authorities will change the the city centers entry and traffic rules maybe it could be accommodated in some Fiat as well  

anyways if it is like you just said, I agree is an awful decision

29 minutes ago, alederme said:

I presume they will change their mind about this choice, it is a micro hybrid engine for Compass as well and for other cars in the group.

If the Italian local authorities will change the the city centers entry and traffic rules maybe it could be accommodated in some Fiat as well  

anyways if it is like you just said, I agree is an awful decision

Micro hybrid inside of Compass. Where? If you are talking about India than it was just a consideration to do so.

3 minuti fa, Bare dice:

Micro hybrid inside of Compass. Where? If you are talking about India than it was just a consideration to do so.

was just a consideration for future development, don't know which is the plan

in my opinion 2.0 and 1.6 mpi engines should revive with micro-hybrid if the diesel engine will be banned from the major city centers, my opinion

obviously turbocharged engine will benefit as well, but now I'm speaking about entry level models 

2 minutes ago, alederme said:

was just a consideration for future development, don't know which is the plan

in my opinion 2.0 and 1.6 mpi engines should revive with micro-hybrid if the diesel engine will be banned from the major city centers, my opinion

obviously turbocharged engine will benefit as well, but now I'm speaking about entry level models 

 

But If you read it carefully than you know that advantage of micro hybrid is almost non existent. IMO, there is only one way. That way are mild hybrids. And the one inside of Wrangler is on low evolutionary step compared to what will be available in the future. 

bah, certo però fa sempre effetto: ieri dal benzinaio, toyota Auris sw Hybrid, parte, senza nemmeno un fiato (sotto i 30 km/h suppongo sia in full elettric)....

 

5 minuti fa, Bare dice:

 

But If you read it carefully than you know that advantage of micro hybrid is almost non existent. IMO, there is only one way. That way are mild hybrids. And the one inside of Wrangler is on low evolutionary step compared to what will be available in the future. 

suzuki's micro-hybrid is a good way to have a "hybrid" compliant car with no major complication... according to their consumption figure it is not that bad

obviously it is a simple and economic solution, no major advantages are to be expected

 

Nuovi rumor/conferme/smentite sul restyling 2018 di Giulietta? 

39 minuti fa, Andreab21 dice:

Nuovi rumor/conferme/smentite sul restyling 2018 di Giulietta? 

 

...che arriverà nel 2018............... (forse)...............

On 20/12/2017 at 09:29, jameson dice:

In realtà c'è un modo per rendere l'elettrico veramente fruibile con meno complicazione: mettere un generatore termico ad altissima efficienza (turbina?) che carica un pacco batterie tampone. Ma nessuno ci sta lavorando. Con quello avresti i vantaggi di autonomia di un motore termico, di prestazioni e semplicità costruttiva di un motore elettrico e di efficienza di un motore a turbina.

Ci aveva pensato Volvo parecchi anni fa:

https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volvo_ECC