I disagree. Alfa could perfectly compare with German brands even if only on a couple of market segments. In 2017 Alfa was back in the race with world beating D segment platform. Tomorrow let’s see, but it will start racing with both legs tied together in a rucksack with only bev vs all imaginable solutions for all competitors : new GLC now, new X3 and new Q5 between 2023 and 2024.

They really couldn’t afford it ? May be. How strange then that small brands such as Mazda and Jaguar can.

56 minutes ago, Marco1975 said:

I disagree. Alfa could perfectly compare with German brands even if only on a couple of market segments. In 2017 Alfa was back in the race with world beating D segment platform. Tomorrow let’s see, but it will start racing with both legs tied together in a rucksack with only bev vs all imaginable solutions for all competitors : new GLC now, new X3 and new Q5 between 2023 and 2024.

They really couldn’t afford it ? May be. How strange then that small brands such as Mazda and Jaguar can.

Jaguar is dying. Mazda will be nowhere in Europe in a few years, if it doesn't get serious BEVs soon. Currently, there's only the MX-30 joke with laughable range. Also, its latest 2 new models were 2 ugly, bulky SUVs, made to appeal to the US and not Europe or Japan. I wouldn't like my favorite Italian sports brand to degrade like that

Back in 2021, Alfa Romeo couldn't compare AT ALL with the German brands when it was coming to model range and investments in place for future models. Also the cars had no electrification, plus inferior connectivity and quality. As I said before: JPI took charge of a wrecked brand. And that's a fact. Let's see how Alfa will be in 5 years from now

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1 ora fa, Marco1975 scrive:

and Jaguar can.

...la strategia di Bollore "reimagine" per Jaguar significa solo Jaguar bev da gennaio 2025.

 

 

1 minuto fa, 4200blu scrive:

...la strategia di Bollore "reimagine" per Jaguar significa solo Jaguar bev da gennaio 2025.

 

 

Giusto per dover di cronaca, Bollore ha lasciato il suo incarico da qualche mese.

Adesso, __P scrive:

 

 

Giusto per dover di cronaca, Bollore ha lasciato il suo incarico da qualche mese.C

si,ma le contenuti della sua strategia rimangono invariata come ha confermato il CEO di Tata, Chandrasekaran, qualche giorni fa.

 

 

 

Parlando del perché Alfa Romeo non ha comprato il team di F1 Sauber come fatto invece da Audi Imparato ha dichiarato

 

"Parliamo di cifre che possono consentirci di investire nella nuova generazione di Stelvio e Giulia, sognare una nuova Duetto o un’Alfetta"

12 ore fa, STEVEC scrive:

Also the cars had no electrification, plus inferior connectivity and quality.

 

NO WAY, no way at all. 

7 hours ago, stigghiolaro said:

 

NO WAY, no way at all. 

I'm talking about the quality of the materials in the interior and other areas, as well as the reliability. Little story: my dad's car once was a 316i (made in 2013), and his next one was a Giulia Super 2.0 (made in 2017). The trunk door of the Giulia was much weaker, you had to hold it with your one hand while it was open, otherwise it would fall in your head. He has ordered a Tonale MTJ now though

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3 ore fa, STEVEC scrive:

I'm talking about the quality of the materials in the interior and other areas. Little story: my dad had once a 316i (made in 2013), and then a Giulia Super (made in 2017). The trunk door of the Giulia was much weaker, you had to hold it with your one hand when it was open, otherwise it would fall in your head. He has ordered a Tonale now, he's hoping they have fixed that thing now

In any case, between the Giulia and Stelvio there has always been a quality gap more favourable to Stelvio.

Some of the 'economic' choices I saw on the Giulia were not there on the Stelvio

4 ore fa, STEVEC scrive:

I'm talking about the quality of the materials in the interior and other areas. Little story: my dad had once a 316i (made in 2013), and then a Giulia Super (made in 2017). The trunk door of the Giulia was much weaker, you had to hold it with your one hand when it was open, otherwise it would fall in your head. He has ordered a Tonale now, he's hoping they have fixed that thing now

 

I still don't agree at all.