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Scelte strategiche gruppo Stellantis NV

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Stellantis holds off on megacasting, championed by Tesla and Volvo


The technique replaces many small welded pieces with a single structure. Stellantis doesn't yet see the benefits in assembly, capital expenditures and aftersales.

Stellantis sees "no benefit" to using Tesla-pioneered megacasting to create large sections of its future vehicles, Arnaud Deboeuf, the automaker’s chief manufacturing officer, said.

Several other automakers including Volvo, Toyota, Nissan, Ford and Hyundai are either using or planning to use the massive diecasting machines to produce larger sections of the car, replacing multiple parts.

However, the presses are expensive and the aluminum diecast sections can be difficult to repair in the event of a crash. 

"We have done some internal studies and today we don't see the benefit," Deboeuf said. "We don't see the benefit in manufacturing, we don't see the benefit in CapEx [capital expenditure], and we don't see the benefit in aftersales."

Deboeuf spoke on the sidelines of Stellantis’ 2024 Factory Booster Day held in Turin at Fiat’s Mirafiori plant, where the automaker showcased manufacturing innovations. 

"What we are sharing today is step-by-step improvements that are super pragmatic and based on the problems we have," he told journalists.

Examples of innovations shown at previous Factory Booster Day events and currently being tested at Stellantis plants include: AI-enabled robot guidance from France’s Inbolt; autonomous wheels from wheel.me, a Norwegian robotics startup; and the Autodesk Construction Cloud, which creates a "digital twin" of a manufacturing facility to allow teams to visualize potential changes before they happen.

Pioneered by Tesla

Megacasting was pioneered by Tesla, which first used machines from Italy’s Idra. 

The supplier debuted its Giga Press casting maching in 2019. It is used to create a single aluminum diecast section of the rear underbody of the Model Y that encompasses the trunk floor, inner wheel arches and rear chassis members. The single casting replaces about 100 separate metal pieces. 

Volvo expects a similar 100-to-1 reduction when it starts megacasting rear floors at its factory in Torslanda, Sweden, for future EVs starting next year. 

Model Ys built at Tesla’s U.S. plant in Texas also use diecast front underbody sections.

Chinese automakers have been quick to follow Tesla’s lead, including Geely-owned Volvo sister brand Zeekr as well as Xpeng and Nio. 

Zeekr’s megacasting press at its Hangzhou Bay plant creates rear sections for the 001 station wagon, 007 sedan and 009 minivan. The Volvo EM90, a luxury minivan based on the 009, also uses the castings.

Zeekr plans to install three gigapresses at its plants in China "in the coming years," the company told Automotive News Europe on a visit to the plant in April.


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A Volvo rear substructure produced by megacasting. Volvo says a single die-cast piece can replace up to 100 smaller pieces that need to be welded together.

Volvo told Automotive News Europe that it would install a third megapress in Torslanda as well as add one to a Slovakia factory that is scheduled to open in 2026.

Nissan, meanwhile, has indicated it will move to megacasting in 2027 as it works to reduce the weight and cost of its upcoming EVs. Nissan is targeting a 30 percent reduction in manufacturing costs, it said.

Toyota’s Lexus division will use megacasting — also known as gigacasting — for EVs, starting with the new LF-ZC midsize sedan due in 2026. 

"Gigacasting will play a very big role in the LF-ZC, as we want to drastically simplify the manufacturing process of our next-generation EVs," Lexus President Takashi Watanabe said last year.

Tesla, however, has reportedly backed away from plans to build entire underbodies using megacasting, opting to stick with its more proven method of casting vehicle underbodies in three pieces. 

Efficiencies touted

Proponents of megacasting say that using large die castings speeds up manufacturing, reduces vehicle weight and brings cost efficiencies, skeptics say they are difficult to repair after a crash. 

The German Insurance Association (GDV) criticized Tesla last year, saying that cracks can form in castings "even with slight deformation." 

The inability to easily repair underbody sections can push up insurance costs because cars are more likely to be written off even in light crashes.

Volvo disputes the finding, saying that it takes a lot of crash force to destroy a megacasting. 

"If you crack it, it's possible to repair it to some extent. You can weld it, or you can bridge," said Mikael Fermer of Volvo, whose title is solution architect vehicle platform, "but if you have a really severe crash, then you will break it. Then the car will be scrapped, but it is the same for a traditional car with a steel structure."

Stellantis’s Deboeuf is not the only one skeptical about megacasting. 

A top executive at Magna International, which is a world leader in metal body parts, believes that megacasting carries risks. "We have got to be careful. It's not as easy as it seems," Magna International's head of Europe, Uwe Geissinger, told Automotive News Europe.

While Deboeuf is cool on megacasting, he said that Stellantis remains open to investing in expensive manufacturing innovation, citing recent investment in new paint shop technology. He said the company chose not to communicate that investment to focus on cost-cutting initiatives instead.

 

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Qui in realtà subentra un'altra questione, ovvero abbiamo appurato che Tavares abbia la colpa dell'attuale situazione disastrosa di Stellantis soprattutto sul versante US, anche se c'è da dire che nonostante ci sono molti problemi e mancanze a me sembra un po' esagerata dai media (ora scrivono di cessione totale a Musk, stendiamo un velo pietoso🤦🏼‍♂️). La questione è JE ha responsabilità? Quali sono le sue colpe, disinteresse, incapacità, eccessiva libertà data a CT? C'è da dire che se su AP erano stati previsti molti di questi problemi, la vedo difficile che il Presidente di tutta la baracca non avesse previsto ciò, e non capisco nemmeno perchè non sia intervenuto. 

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